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They are 93 and soon to be 94 years old. They have been living with me and my husband for 2 years. We are recently retired. They have taken over our home. We are lucky that they take a care of themselves in our home, cooking, cleaning. They want us here 24/7. I just can’t live like this anymore. My husband finally agrees. We have no life. I want to start living. We will be telling them very soon that they cannot live with us anymore. I am so nervous about telling them. When we told them we wanted to move a few years back my FIL started crying. We found a great place for them to live which is close by. I really hope they understand. Anyone else had a similar experience?

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Just read your reply to Voice. You both are going to needed to harden yourselves for this move. Treat it like your sending your children off for their first day of school. Best thing with young children is you don't linger. You give them a hug and a kiss and leave. Same with your in-laws. You take them to their room. Maybe do a tour. Stay a little while making sure they are comfortable and leave. The staff can take over from there. ALs usually ask that you stay away a few days to help them acclimate but I think that may make them feel abandoned. You don't have to stay long but I would drop in. My Mom was 5 min up the road so it was easy just to drop in.

Now you will need boundaries. Do not be at their beck and call. No phone calls all day long with complaints. Maybe one call a day after dinner and before the aide starts getting them ready for the night. Maybe 7 pm. Just checking in. If they start to complain, stop the call. There is no reason for them not to enjoy the activities and the socialization.
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I’m in a similar situation. My wife’s parents moved in with us when Covid hit in March of 2020. Both are 91 years old. Both now have advancing dementia.

My wife’s sisters are of little help. They generally use our house as bed and breakfast when they come to visit. And both have very little respect for our home or boundaries. One of them loved to plan birthdays, Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, etc “celebrations” in our house for them., Next thing I know we have a dozen or more people in our house and mess to clean up.

I was put in a compromising position with all this. They had sitters with them prior to Covid. Both werein their late 80’s at the time and my MIL wheelchair bound, and we couldn’t take the chance on exposure to the virus at an AL, nursing home, or retirement center. If I said “no”’at the time, I’m the one “passing a death sentence” on them in the eyes of my wife’s family.

We are going on five years now. My wife retired two years ago. I’m retiring early at 64 in a few months due to a second heart attack (this one major) in April. Additionally we now have three grandchildren under age three. It is time for focus on and enjoy them.

At least you have your husband on your side. My wife lives in the “middle children syndrome” world. She is a retired nurse and firmly believes they should stay here with us until the ultimate end. So I have this battle to fight.

I do agree with others here. They are your husband’s parents. The duty to tell them should be his. Just as I believe it will be my wife’s duty to tell her parents.

Good luck to you.
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waytomisery Jul 6, 2024
Voice of reason ,

I’m a retired nurse as well .
Your wife should know better and be taking your serious health problems into consideration here.

Her parents have lived their lives .
You deserve some happy retirement years . You don’t need that extra stress .

Nurses often feel they have to take care of their parents at home . Tell your wife that this nurse says it’s ok to put her spouse and marriage first. In fact that is what she should be doing . I wish I had been better about it .

On a side note , your house is not a bed and breakfast , it’s your house too , put your foot down with the sisters .
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Would a soft step approach work? Eg A month stay booked in the chosen care home as 'respite care' while you & DH are away on a short holiday?

Not exacting a trial, not a try before you buy.. but a sensible solution so they have care & activitities while you are "away". Maybe you will go away.. even if just a weekend & then home to garden, eat out etc.

It will be an adjustment for all of you. If the care home is local it will make it much easier. Less burdonsome on you & DH to visit. If the place has a cafe, hairdressing, a lounge to hang out, happy hour, they may even like the new lifestyle & adjust really well. Some people actually ask why didn't I do this earlier?
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waytomisery Jun 6, 2024
What about the part where the elderly couple wants their son and wife home with them 24/7 ?

I think this is only solved by the elders moving out totally . And if you let them back home after a month they may refuse to ever leave again .
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I'm sorry you're going through this, but you deserve to have a life. And your in-laws could live another decade. They will adjust in time. Just stay the course and do all that you can to ease this transition for them.
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In a tipical family, are parents pushed us out of the nest.

Just sitting here actually watching my starling family, the babies are getting bigger and bigger, mommy and daddy are getting really thin
They are going to have to push them out of the nest soon.

So now we are the parents and are parents are, are children, if we want are life, freedom, and money,we spend on them. We can not spoil them until it completely BREAKS us. Breaks are, health are mental stability, are relationships.

It really stinks that's for sure, but we can't let it destroy everything are parents pushed us to be in the first place. Independent adults, enjoying are life
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Elders tend to fear AL (or the term "nursing home") like it will be prison. That was the ways of the 1940s/1950s, when senior facilities were seen as insane asylums. This is the classic old wives tale of misery!

Be straightforward and tell them in the 21st century, things have changed. AL facilities are now similar to a hotel, with private studios and bathrooms. They have luxury dining, amenities, activities, libraries and housekeeping services. No more grocery shopping, cooking and dishes! No more house and bathroom cleaning! Activities easy to participate in, or not. There's usually a doctor on site as well.

You both will know the are in a lovely, safe place. You both can travel, do what you always wanted and worked your whole lives for. Help is just a phone call away. They need to lose the olden days concept of an asylum or mental hospital! Or the idea that they can impede on your lives forever. It's simply not what you planned for your lives. You can't be truly free to enjoy your golden years.

The horror stories of the past are long gone. This is the 21st century, and the horrible reputation of "homes" is gone. How can they believe shopping, cooking, dishes and housework makes them (allegedly) independent, and see it for the actual drudgery it is? Did they house their elderly parents when they retired? I doubt it. You will still see them often enough!

Let them cry all they want. Tell them you worked your whole lives to enjoy your retirement with each other. Two years has been very generous, but was not your life plan. You know how precious the time you have left is, and you simply want your privacy to do whatever you wish. They had had their retirement freedom for 25+ years already. You don't need the responsibility of another couple around 24/7 for your entire retirement years, or not for the rest of your lives. They must respect that and simply find a nice AL.
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waytomisery Jun 5, 2024
Hopefully the parents will respect that this is their son’s home , not theirs .
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Feel bad for all of you. Facility living is not what its cracked up to be.
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waytomisery Jun 5, 2024
Facilities vary .

Also people vary , in such that some will try to make the best of the time they have left no matter where they live , while others throw guilt trips .

Adult children do not make their parents old . This newly retired couple should have the opportunity to make the best of their own time left . They should not be home 24/7 with these people .
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I really don't understand why so many people make a moving into AL a huge nightmare. When I told dad he had to move into Sterling House AL, he perked right up and said "that's a very nice place, great!" When I moved my folks into their next AL which was like an upscale hotel, they were thrilled. Why wouldn't they be? Their apartment was luxurious, the dining room was beautiful, the library was stocked with books and DVDs and had a dance floor for the band's that played on weekends, there were trips planned regularly on the bus, activities, gardens, etc. They had a great time in AL along with great care as needed. They were fortunate to have had the funds to afford it.

I would move to AL in a N.Y. minute if I had the funds and the need. No joke. I could stay in my apartment if I wanted to, like any other apartment bldg, but have care if I needed it w/o the hassle of trying to find it on my own. If that's not a win-win situation, I don't know what is.

If your in laws cry, they don't realize what AL is all about, they really don't. They're envisioning something that isn't real and don't realize the new life they're about to embark on.
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They don’t like the idea of a facility , it represents losing independence to many of them , or just aging in general .
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When people live together, the family dynamics will inevitably change.

You lose your privacy. You are no longer free to come and go as you please.

You cannot entertain in your own home the way that you did previously, and so on.

It’s too much togetherness which works on everyone’s nerves.

You deserve to have your life back and once again feel like your home belongs to you.

I am glad to see that you decided to make other arrangements for your in laws. The sooner the better.

Wishing you all the best.
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TG its only been two years. Where I live we only have 2 choices for AL. I placed my Mom in the cheaper so her money would last and it was 5 min up the road.

Yes, your husband should tell his parents that living together will no longer work now he and you are retired. You plan on traveling and doing everything you couldn't when working. That you cannot be there for them 24/7 that you need a life of your own. Tell them you have found a nice AL close by so they will see you often.

They need to realize that you need to do the things you put off doing while you can do them. You are Seniors too and you do not know what tomorrow will bring. They have lived a long life, you may not be so lucky. At 74 and 77 my DH and I been losing classmates to cancer, heart desease and diabetes. Others are walking with canes, pulling oxygen concentrators or have cancer or had a heart attack. We, so far, are the lucky ones. I take no pills and DH takes a baby aspirin and his vitamins daily.

Your in-laws have lived their lives its time to live yours.
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Here's the problem.
You feel responsible for this. You aren't. You didn't cause and can't fix it.
You feel you must make this OK. It isn't. It's a loss to them and they will mourn it. They will rage. They will accuse. That is your thanks for doing what you have done these last years. You have made yourself the fall guy for every loss they sustain now.

I am so glad you have a place arranged. Please do not expect this to be without anger, hurt, rage, accusation, grief and mourning, for if the losses of aging are not worth mourning, then what is?

I am relieved you will not throw your own lives on the burning funeral pyre of your parents, and that you will, with your husband, enjoy some of the last most free years of your life. As I know you recognize, you have already done more than most. And you deserve a life. Your sacrifice will not make anything perfect. Old age isn't about perfect; it isn't about happy. It IS about the losses we sustain at the end, and the fact that the longer we live, the more loses we endure. I say this as an 81 years old who, while happy, and more than willing to go. I KNOW the path ahead.
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I don’t blame them for crying or for you dreading the conversation but it is necessary. And it is a major life transition for all of you.
You won’t be free of responsibility when they move. They will still need advocates, bills paid, decisions made, shopping done, medical care, visiting. So yes, you will get your privacy back and can hand them off to others for oversight but caring for them is ongoing until they pass. Good point about them having each other for this transition. This is something they are able to do for each other at this point in their lives.
Remember that your attitude will help them adjust theirs. Don’t over promise but do let them know you will continue to look out for them. Be confident and loving and firm.

Once when my mom was in a rehab I reminded myself to be thankful that I didn’t have to shop for the food, cook the meal, wash the dishes, administer meds, wash the linens, clean the floors, do any personal care. I did clean her teeth.
My job was to watch that the staff did their job. That the therapy was going well. That her meds were correct. To visit. To bring her clothing and provide updates to family.

You will miss them in your home but you will have DH and your in-laws will have each other. Let us know how it goes.
And send us a postcard from your travels. 🤗
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You said you found a great place near you . If possible can your in laws be given a choice between 2 or 3 places ? Is there more than one facility near you ?
Take them on tours , try a meal ?
This way they feel they have some control over where they move to .

I’m curious why they moved in with you to begin with .

As Geaton said , you may have difficulty getting them to leave .
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I would add not to expect the in laws to be happy after the move either. They aren’t happy now . If they were happy people , they wouldn’t want you home with them 24/7 ( as you stated ) to begin with . You are not responsible for their happiness . It’s tough to be happy about being 94. There is nothing you can do about that .

Your husband and you need to live your own lives .
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Since your home is their legal residence I'm wondering if your husband (or anyone) is their PoA? If not, and they refuse to leave, you'll have a different problem.

If they do have a PoA, is the authority active? Just because you found a nice place for them to live doesn't mean they will agree to go there, even if they have a PoA and even if that authority is active. You can't make a resistant adult do something very easily and maybe not at all.

Are they on meds for any depression, anxiety, mood? If not but you think it would help them, I would certainly deal with this before they transition. My Mom at 95 finally asked for meds for her mild depression and it has made a noticeable difference, especially in dealing with her every day (she lives next door to me).

If your inlaws have a PoA and the authority is active (read the document, it usually requires at least 1 medical diagnosis of impairment) then to ease them into the facility you may need to use a "therapeutic fib". This is a harmless white lie you tell them to get them to voluntarily move out, like: we're having work done on the house and they'll be shutting off the water (or electricity or gas) for an extended period of time so we all have to move out "temporarily" and here's a nice place for now... etc.

I wish you success in moving them. Enjoy your retirement!
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This is not your job to tell your In-Laws that they have to move.
This is your husbands responsibility.
And he should say exactly what you have here.
"mom, dad since we have retired we want to do more traveling and spend more time together. There is a great place, close by I think we should check it out."

Any crying would be what I would call "selfish tears" not tears of pain or sorrow.

Or turn the tables.
You and your husband move into the Independent Living place and rent the house to your In-Laws. (kidding)
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Susansa, I'm sure it won't be easy, but your doing the absolute right thing for all involved.

I would say to you just to hope for the best case scenario, but prepare for the worst.

Best of luck, and keep us posted
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Old people can be selfish. They expect too much from their loved ones. However, I do empathize with them because they are afraid. This season of life is about letting go of life as they once knew it. It is also about preparation for dying which is also known as the twilight years. Both the elderly and the caregiver feels the anticipated grief of knowing what comes next. We cry too. Also, we know there is a physical limit on how much we can take on.

People are living longer and it poses a burden on family members who get stuck in these caregiving situations. Fifty years ago, people lived to their early seventies or late sixties. Then the lifespans stretched well into their eighties and nineties which eventually evolved into more and more home health care businesses coming on the scene. Now, I'm seeing people living well into their hundreds. One of my good friends lived to age 104. I met one lady who was 104 still painting pictures and came to visit her friend one day in the Assisted Living facility. Both were residents of the Assisted Living facility.
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They might cry when you tell them, but remember their crying is about much more than just having to move to AL. They'll be crying that they've lived so long, and they'll be crying that their care requires more than the two of you can provide. None of this is your fault. It goes with the territory of living a long time.

You and your husband are getting older, and the parents should well understand that as we get older, there are many many things we can no longer do, like it or not. Elder care is hard work, and it's way harder when you're older and it's 24/7 in your home.

You are doing this FOR them not to them. I think it will help that they're both going to AL together, because they'll have each other.
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Susansa Jun 5, 2024
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