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You posted this back in May has there been any resolution? (oops, I see the original question was from last September) If not then perhaps the caregiver does more for you than you realize, most competent people wouldn't have this much difficulty dismissing an unneeded employee.
I paid her for the last time on July 31, 2019. She knows that I don't owe her any past monies (I even paid her "severance wages" equal to one month's pay on Aug. 1st, 2019). Help needed: I have identified an attorney who can file an Unlawful Detainer action against her. I can also report her to the Adult Protective Services, although I hesitate to do that thinking that I don't want to destroy her career as a caregiver. She is an independent (not from an agency). I'll appreciate any helpful suggestions. So far, I have fired her (I have the written proof of that, sent her an email and hand-delivered the notice). But I haven't done anything else yet.
I am confused. If you could not afford her back in September 2018 [your first posting on this subject], the caregiver must be being paid somehow since the caregiver is still with you as of January 2020. Can you tell us more.
I think you need to do what u are planning. Other posts you say she is abusing you. Then call APS. If ur not paying her why is she hanging around. To tell u the truth at this point I wouldn't care if I wrecked her life. And I would not give her references.
Be strong, get the money together that you need to legally force an eviction. You will feel safer once the Sheriff arrives to physically remove her from your home.
It would be kind of you to start packing some of her things she has left lying around the house. Those will be placed outside when the Sheriff comes.
Do not hesitate to call 911 if anything happens in the meantime.
Be strong, especially when you are in the right. You can do this.
mjcharland, why on earth are you paying this person for doing small tasks around your home if you don not want this person in your home? There must be more to this issue, a back story.
Note my reply. This is an old post and has been asked 3x since 2018. The last being Jan. OP has received the same answers and continues to keep the caregiver around.
mjcharland I've just now read all your replies, I think you need to ask your question again but not repeatedly asking how to fire the caregiver, rather as "how to evict a former live in caregiver who refuses to leave" - that is a whole different thing and may get you the answers you need.
Prolly have to evict her legally. Which involves paperwork, as well as being served by law enforcement, and then after a certain date if their not moved out then law enforcement moves them out. if they try and come back you may need to get a restraining order through the courts.
Sorry if I posted my question twice. I already fired my caregiver, but she won't leave. That's my problem.
I'm getting ready to do something about it and have already contacted a lawyer, so I'm taking people's advice. As for MCI, I've been tested thoroughly and I can assure you that there is no trace of it in me.
The caregiver was assigned to me following my seizure at the end of 2015. I was thoroughly tested in 2017 and there is nothing wrong with my brain. I have recovered enough now so I no longer need a caregiver, so I fired her in July 2019, but she refuses to leave.
Mj, you have been asking for help since 2018. Then you say that you are paying for small tasks. But she abuses you and you are afraid of her. Can you see why I would question how you are really doing?
You have to make up your mind. If this person is abusive to you, you can get an emergency order of protection and get them removed from your home. But you can not seesaw about what is going on. Law enforcement is not going to take you seriously if you don't make a decision and tell them that you are frightened of retaliation. She should not be a caregiver ever again, you can stop someone else from going through this difficult situation.
I still say call APS, tell them that she is abusive and she retaliates in anger if you say anything, they will help you as a vulnerable senior to get this person out of your house.
Hopefully you will listen to the attorney and give him ALL the information in writing so he/she can understand exactly what your situation is.
No one should have to live in fear in their own home.
I am slightly confused,, does she live with you? If not don't open the dang door anymore! Get a protection order against her from the police dept. If she lives with you this is more tricky.. then you have to come up with a plan to evict her.
This post started in 2018. We keep giving her the info she needs to get rid of this person and she just keeps repeating herself. Yes, it seems the caregiver was a live in and will not move out.
Please, do not post another thread. It gets very confusing. I think we have given u as much info we can. We r not professionals. Just lay people. You need a lawyer. You have allowed this to go on too long. Once she would not leave, you should have taken action. Good Luck. Please do come back and tell us how u get rid of her. You may help others.
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Edit: I just checked, this is a duplicate question. https://www.agingcare.com/questions/how-can-i-get-rid-of-an-abusive-caregiver-that-i-can-no-longer-afford-442567.htm
Sounds frustrating!
When was the last time you paid the caregiver?
Does she think you owe her any past monies?
What kind of help getting rid of her do you think you need?
Is she from an agency?
How can we help you?
What have you tried, so far?
I would do that and ask for help in anyway they can help you.
I am sorry that you are being abused and used in this situation.
I pray that APS helps you get rid of this person.
https://www.agingcare.com/questions/how-do-i-get-rid-of-my-abusive-caregiver-455420.htm
You have to put a stop to her being able to torment another human being.
Are you afraid that she will retaliate? If yes, make that known when you call APS.
Sept 2018 ... 3 responses
May 2019.... 10 responses
Jan 2019 ... 7 responses
Most saying to call APS
What else can we do or say?
Be strong, get the money together that you need to legally force an eviction.
You will feel safer once the Sheriff arrives to physically remove her from your home.
It would be kind of you to start packing some of her things she has left lying around the house. Those will be placed outside when the Sheriff comes.
Do not hesitate to call 911 if anything happens in the meantime.
Be strong, especially when you are in the right.
You can do this.
Good Bye
I've just now read all your replies, I think you need to ask your question again but not repeatedly asking how to fire the caregiver, rather as "how to evict a former live in caregiver who refuses to leave" - that is a whole different thing and may get you the answers you need.
if they try and come back you may need to get a restraining order through the courts.
What exactly don't you understand? Could it be that you do need help and don't want to admit it?
I am asking you because I know that I gave you details how to protect yourself from her and get her out.
Yet you keep asking or coming up with excuses, sounds like someone struggling with some MCI in my opinion.
I'm getting ready to do something about it and have already contacted a lawyer, so I'm taking people's advice. As for MCI, I've been tested thoroughly and I can assure you that there is no trace of it in me.
You have to make up your mind. If this person is abusive to you, you can get an emergency order of protection and get them removed from your home. But you can not seesaw about what is going on. Law enforcement is not going to take you seriously if you don't make a decision and tell them that you are frightened of retaliation. She should not be a caregiver ever again, you can stop someone else from going through this difficult situation.
I still say call APS, tell them that she is abusive and she retaliates in anger if you say anything, they will help you as a vulnerable senior to get this person out of your house.
Hopefully you will listen to the attorney and give him ALL the information in writing so he/she can understand exactly what your situation is.
No one should have to live in fear in their own home.
Best of luck to you.
Good Luck. Please do come back and tell us how u get rid of her. You may help others.