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There is a chance my father in law will come to live with my husband and I soon. DH works long hours and I do not work, I mostly take care of the household tasks. We are currently undergoing fertility treatment and there is a high likelihood I will be pregnant within the next year.



I have no issues living with FIL, doing laundry, cooking, helping arrange/transport to doctor appointments etc. But I draw the line at bathing/toileting which are real concerns. FIL has a degenerative disease and while he mostly handles the toilet on his own, he does wet the bed sometimes, and his condition will only decline over time.



I have a history of trauma and the idea of having to perform intimate care for a male who is not my husband or child makes me so uncomfortable I have been incredibly anxious just thinking about it. It's not like I have a reason to distrust FIL but I just feel uncomfortable. I can't sleep well at night and feel nausea during the day.



I know we can hire a caregiver to help with showers, but toileting seems like a daily task with unpredictable timing and not like something we can just wait for a caregiver to take care of unless we had somebody 24/7 which is probably not in the budget realistically.



DH says because he already works long hours he doesn't want to have another task on top of that. He feels burnt out from work. Since I expressed my discomfort with this particular task he said he felt hurt, as if I don't care about his parents. Of course I care about and love them but this is the one thing I cannot do...



My own family may just be much more conservative as I know the elders in my family would not feel comfortable asking us for help with such tasks. Both of my parents passed away in their middle age so it didn't come up directly but I distinctly remember both my mom and grandmother saying they would never want to impose on me like that. DH thinks it's more of an imposition/loss of dignity to have somebody outside the family.



How do I express this boundary while still maintaining family relationships/not hurting their feelings? Or should I just suck it up and do it?

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Since DH is basically not taking into account your feelings regarding not wanting to clean up his father's private parts when he has an accident this is a huge red flag about how this is going to go.

He works full time and doesnt want the task of cleaning pee and poo off his dad should he have an accident but he is ok with you doing it. Even though you have already expressed trauma at the thought of having to see his fathers penis.

Sorry but this situation will not be workable in the long run with your husband's attitude. Especially as dad declines and needs more care and son doesnt want to put him in a facility.

Put the baby making on hold until this situation is ironed out. You may find you dont like the man you are married to when you see how selfish he is with his demands that you take care of his father.
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Beatty Oct 2022
Quite right SP.. I was just starting the conversation.. slowly but that's where I was a-heading to..
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Ditto to what the others have already responded.

The least of your problems will be the intimate care part. The difference between having a baby and caring for an adult with a degenerative disease is that the baby eventually grows up and becomes more independent, gets potty trained, etc. But your FIL's illness will demand more and more of your time and attention and energy. The impact on your totaly family AND your marriage makes this a very definite NO.

Your FIL will actually do better is a nice facility where he will have all the care he needs and social exposure as well. How does your husband think you will get him into a car by yourself -- with a child -- to take him to appointments if he is physically compromised? What about when he requires a walker, or wheelchair? Do you have stairs in your home? Wide doorways and big bathrooms that can accommodate him? Even if he doesn't need this now, he will eventually and this means your home is not the proper place for him on even a practical level. If it is a financial concern -- that's FIL's problem and not yours.

Tell your husband you do not want to do it. Do not give any other reason because he (and your FIL) will find ways to "make it work" but the reality is, it won't ever be a good scenario. Just have your husband read the other posts on this forum from women/wives/SOs who did exactly what your husband is wanting. It's a disaster waiting to happen -- at the cost of your immediate family.

You are not bad or wrong for saying NO. You are smart for even coming to this forum to get confirmation about something you had a forboding about.
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Hi Payala!
I am also going through fertility treatments. I just had 2 rounds of ivf. Is that what you're doing? I can understand not working. Between the doctors appointments and the shots it's nearly impossible to have a reasonable schedule. I ended up stopping my job and getting a remote job instead. The pay isn't great but it's something and I can do it in my own time. Fertility treatments are expensive. I can understand your husband's burn out. I think he loves his father and is blinded to the fact of how much work it's going to be for you once he arrives. You need to spell out why you won't have time to care for him while taking care of a newborn and managing household tasks. Set a firm boundary that he can not move in EVER. Once he moves in, it will be hard to get him out. If you're going through IVF heavy lifting and bending down are things you shouldn't be doing. Same when you're pregnant. Let your husband know that. Your health and the health of your baby comes first. Make all your boundaries and expectations clear. If he doesn't agree than you may have to move on. In the meantime, getting even a part time remote job would be good to have an excuse why you can't help with FIL and you can contribute to fertility expenses. I wish you the best of luck. Keep us posted. If you need any IVF tips please pm me.
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Payala, is there a reason you don't hold a paying job?

I can't for the life of me figure out why you would stay with a man who doesn't understand your position. Much less why you'd consider having children with him.

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but that's how I'm seeing it.
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Let your husband and family down gently, and allow the "hurt" feelings to lie where they will.

Put the fertility treatments on hold because they are very expensive and cause your husband to be burnt out from working so hard. He will also not be available for his parental duties, and will be absent.

Moving in an additional family member (his family) will only add to the conditions that make your home a pass on bringing in a child to raise.

You need to say "NO". No to everything that your husband has planned for your life, your time, your commitment.

Time to reconsider his commitment to you. People just don't get a pass to say they don't want to add a task, when it is they themselves causing the need for additional tasks/work. Your dH does not get to assign you this task.

What are you thinking?

Any intimacy with your husband will be destroyed once you are there to only cook, clean, and serve your Fil, husband,and child. You may not be super woman who can go from changing sheets, the baby's diapers, and then crawl into bed.
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How can you say you have no problem with FIL moving in and doing laundry, cooking, caregiving, appointments, meds.
And you want a baby.
So imagine your average day, crying baby, sleepless nights, potentially. Then chores and sick, maybe cranky FIL, then hubby burnt out from work? He is already protecting himself by putting blame on you. It is self preservation.
How about you? 24/7, baby or not, FIL’s degenerative disease, almost definitely you will be doing all of this and more.
I care for husband with PD, who is very independent.
If times come I will never ever do any of toileting things. This is not about caring, this is what we are willing or rather not willing to do.
And having every right to refuse!
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The "boundary" in question has to do with your husband.

Your Fil has not even moved in yet-and his needs will be changing.

You have the right to say "No" to the move-in.
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This really isn't about the toileting issues, because like all of us, no one wants to deal with an adult's feces and urine. It's gross, but you just deal with it.

This scenario isn't realistic on many levels, but the fact that FIL will be declining while you will be raising one baby toward independence while caring for another who'll never become more independent is a real problem. How will you take your infant to the park for a playdate is FIL is at home alone and shouldn't be? This is just one tiny example of how this just won't work.

I'll throw in one more example that you won't have thought of. If you have a baby -- like my first child -- who turns out to have colic, you'll be dealing with an infant who screams and cries for eight hours straight EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. My daughter started that when she was three weeks old, and it went on for five months. I was a jittering wreck every afternoon when 3:30 rolled around, because that's when it would start. She went until 10 p.m. before collapsing, exhausted, into sleep. She also projectile vomited everything that went into her (also related to the colic), so I was on my hands and knees cleaning carpet, floors, and furniture when I wasn't pacing the floors with her. My husband came home one night and found dinner not ready AGAIN, and actually said, "What do you DO all day that you can't get dinner ready?" (HUGE mistake.)

The reason why I'm telling you this is that the unknowns of just having a newborn are huge, not to mention the unknowns of a high-risk pregnancy. You truly cannot handle FIL as well, and this shouldn't even be on the table. You and your husband need to have a sit-down meeting and he needs a come-to-Jesus moment where he understands that just because things don't happen in front of him (because he's at work) doesn't mean they don't happen.

Put the brakes on this whole plan and find other accommodations for FIL.

And I'm not joking here -- DO NOT have a baby with your husband until the two of you are 100% on the same page about this.
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Gosh, from what you say this boy you married has said you are going to be caring for his dad solo and you will be a solo parent trying to juggle a senior infant and a newborn baby.

I would take the tens of thousands you are wasting on IVF and run. Because you probably won't conceive because of the high stress.

I am sorry but, his words are poison to a healthy relationship and a death sentence to what you and he have or should I say don't have.
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I get he works full time. But if FIL lives there and then add in a baby when does she get to clock out and take a break? Obviously husband won't give her a break when he comes home from work. So she will be 24/7.
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