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A good friend in her 80's has lost the vision in one eye (very blurry, swollen and painful) The eye doctor's tell her they can't save the eye and have given her drops to help with the swelling. The problem... she's still driving. She managed to pass her last written test but she can't see. And the pain in the bad eye distracts her. Nothing anyone has said to her will get her to stop. I understand she dosn't want to lose her independence but she's going to end up killing someone. As a non-relative, can I report her to the DMV for a more extensive driving test? Her brothers are enabling her by fixing her car over and over (it's falling apart). She can't afford to buy another car so if they would just tell her it can't be fixed it would take care of the problem. She has a boyfriend who will driver her places. And I'm more than willing to take her places too. But she doesn't like to plan ahead, instead want's to jump in the car and go when she wants too. I'm open for suggestions...

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Call her eye doctor. He can call DMV and tell them she shouldn't be driving. Not sure if she should be in constant pain. Is she using her drops.
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I'm taking her to see the doctor this Friday and at her request, going in with her.
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I would write out what you've shared here and make sure her doctor gets that information before her appointment. When she checks in, hand it to the office person and ask that the doctor see it prior to seeing your friend. You should be able to do it in a way that is unseen by your friend. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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Most DMV's require you fill out paperwork telling them why you do not feel the person is safe to drive anymore. You can often find the paperwork online at your DMV website. List your reasons, including that she can't see well and list her doctors names, addresses, and phone#'s. It takes many months to complete the process. In the meantime, keep in touch with her needs and be there when she needs a ride. Good luck.
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I had to turn in my brother-in-law, who had Parkinsons and drove erractically. Sooner or later he would have been involved in a serious accident, and I didn't want to be responsible for his or an innocent person's death. I just called the DMV, explained the situation, and they were grateful for the information. The next time he went to renew his DL, they pulled it. He never knew why, but it was a huge relief to our entire town!
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My father was blind in 1 eye since WWII when he was treated for Malaria with Quinine.

He drove fine as he followed the rules of "check the mirrors often" - never an accident.  And he drove in New York City.  We're talking 'major traffic' on a daily basis.

He drove until he was 83 - and only stopped due to a heart condition that his cardiologist was afraid would impair his reflexes.
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In my area, a seven-year-old girl was crossing at the crossing as her school let out. A lady in her 70s (or 80s) hit and killed her. She was blind in one eye and couldn't see out of the other (glaucoma). Tragic and senseless.

While your friend does have one eye that works, you say her pain can distract her. Plus, she's likely like able to compensate yet with the lose of one eye. Plus, with her advancing age, her reaction would be slower if she did detect someone suddenly in her lane. I get it about not wanting to lose independent and having to schedule someone to pick her up, someone's life just isn't worth being stubborn. Hopefully you'll get the right answer this Friday. Thank you for pushing to do the right thing.
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Call the DMV and tell them the situation. Had the same problem with my Dad. We called the police, who knew him because we come from a small town, and they took care of it after he side-swiped a couple of cars and his insurance went up.
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First tell your friend that she needs to stop driving until her situation improves. Maybe you can take her keys? Don't report her to anyone until you let her know that is your plan.
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I hope you don't live in MS. My Dad was legally blind for 40 years, so he got Mom to drive for him. Then she came down with Alzheimer's. Our family was trying so hard to get them to stop driving after 3 minor wrecks. Would you believe that they both had someone to drive them to the DMV & RENEWED their DLs! Dad had someone to lead him in & Mom was in a wheelchair by that time. I called the state office, but they said there was nothing they could do until the law changed which allows anyone to renew their DL if they are able to sign the form. So no help from them at all!
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Franks,

That is horrible....share that with the Mississippi tourism board.....I know I wont be driving through your fine state anytime soon!!! Some times common sense is scarce!
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Requirements differ from state to state. I could provide more information if I know the state. It is the ophthalmologists or optometrists, responsibility to report if their patient does not meet the visual requirements. I have work as a ophthalmic technician for 30+ years. Sometimes a patient is permitted to drive day time hours only. We have honestly had patients drive 45 minute to their appointment with 20/400 vision in both eyes and may have been driving this way for years! Also...when a patient has cataracts, their vision could 'white out' in sunlight. This is why we do a 'glare test.'  They may see 20/40 on the chart and 20/400 when a 'glare test' is done.
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Franks what the hell is wrong with your state that law will get people killed and no one cares
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I had a similar problem and took a relative to the DMV for a renewal and spoke to them about this person mental health and poor driving skills.. The day I went a women who was a FRIEND of my relatives pretty much blew me off and let HER PASS. I contacted the DMV and was told there was nothing they could do. Can you believe that. No employee investigation, no repercussions. NOTHING. My advice is to alert the police and when you know she is going to get out in the car and perhaps kill someone they can follow her and give her a ticket so she can go in front of a Judge to determine her ability. And then PRAY he takes her License away.
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States apparently differ but in CA anyone can report a driver to the DMV anonymously. DMV then sends a letter telling the person they have to come in for a test. Not sure if it's a driving test or just a written test. Might depend on the reasons given. In my husband's case (dementia) the doctor recommended he stop driving (I'd already spoken with her & caregiver was with me to report his issues) & he was furious but he did stop. Dr reported to the county which reported to the DMV & he got a letter from DMV after a couple of months telling him if he didn't come in within 30 days to take a test his license would be canceled. He set the letter aside & didn't do anything with it, and didn't try to drive again until a couple of years later when he forgot that he didn't drive.
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If you can go legal route and quickly enough, great but that isn't always easy. We convinced my mom, who still flirts with the idea she might drive again at some point (not happening), after her stroke not to drive even though legally she still could by stressing that we, her children could be held responsible if she had an accident. It's a fact that because we were aware of the problems and that the doctor was discouraging it according to what we were told, that we could be held liable because we had that knowledge and allowed her to drive. Now to be fair it applies mostly to letting her drive with us in the car which is what was being proposed to see how her reaction time was or so she could "prove" her ability and there is a part of her that knows, most of the time, there might be something to the idea she shouldn't be driving. We also work hard at making transportation a non issue, even though she can't just get in the car whenever she want's she is hooked up with a van service (I do all the scheduling for her) through the town & local public transportation company as well as Uber (I can also arrange for her) and my brother as well as her cousin to give her rides. But the idea she might be putting us in harms way is what has helped convinced her to leave the keys hanging on the hook. Unfortunately her car keeps starting and running by all rights it shouldn't be road worthy anymore but it is, darn Toyota's!
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Oh, and in CT anyway there is a free screening/re-test thing for elderly and victims of medical issues that affect motor and cognitive skills, any PT can and should be able to guide you to it. The problem is it doesn't seem to be required in any real way, at least not until they go put themselves in the program anyway. The doctor can recommend/order/ refer them but simply not scheduling the review seems to get you out of any requirements. I saw several patients trying to get their driving privileges back through this process but as far as I can tell it was simply because they bought in to the idea they were somehow barred from driving until they passed this review but I don't think they ever actually lost their license or where barred from driving legally. Now I imagine if they were refereed to this, didn't go or pass and had an accident it could be used against them in a legal suit but if they are stopped for running a stop sign or something their license would still show as valid, no info to police or anything. But this type of program probably exists in other states as well and might be a way to curtail your friend...it might be helpful to have a doctor involved with that though to say I want you to do this testing to see when your ready to drive, something like that...maybe it doesn't help your situation as much. Sorry.
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When asking for my mother-in-law, our local DMV told me that being legally blind in one eye would not cause her to lose her driver’s license. Luckily she gave up driving on her own.
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My Gson had an epileptic seizure Xmas 2016. His neurologist was going to let him drive just to work and back, about 10mls. His primary reported him to DMV. My Gson hadn't driven since Xmas. He heard from DMV in March saying as of April he had to turn in his license and reapply in Oct. if he had no further seizures. One of our local police officers tried to get his own mother's licence revolked here in NJ. He was told that she would have to have an accident that would tie into the ALZ before it could be revolked. I think once you r diagnoised with ALZ / Dem that a doctors note stipulating this should be enough to revolk it.
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Anyone may report any driver to their State's DMV as being a potential "unsafe" driver that needs to be investigated. The State always has the power to revoke a license of any person who is deemed to be an unsafe driver.
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It probably depends on your state as to whether you can report it, but I'd give it a try. Be prepared to be frustrated. My mom basically has no sight in one eye and has some cognitive issues, but they let her keep her license. We try to keep offering her rides, to take her shopping, etc., to minimize her driving (especially at night) but she refuses to stop driving. We've even set her up on Uber so she has an alternative (no public transport near her).
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Report to Adult Protective Services and the Police department. They will have her do a driver's test, written and actual driving. She won't have a choice once they are easily able to determine that she should not be behind the wheel.
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When both my friends for whom I am POA continued to drive after their licenses were revoked, because they forgot about that, I called Adult Protective Services for advice. A lady came out to interview them and I was there first so she would be let in. They had refused other evaluators the doctor had sent. The husband sounded very credible for the first minute or so and than began repeating himself because he forgot what he had already said. The lady asked how they got their groceries and the husband responded they went to the story like usual. She asked about their licenses being revoked and the husband responded with a big surprise: "They are?!" Later, when interviewing the husband, she asked what he thought they should do with their car if they couldn't drive and he replied "Sell it and get some money out of it!" At that point I was able to get him to give me the keys (He had refused before when I asked) and I could move the car out of their garage to a friends garage while we got it ready to sell. He later forgot all about this and we got a call one morning from my panicked friend saying "our cars are gone!" So, for me, APS was the key in making some progress at this stage of their lives. I learned later that their eye doctor was the one who alerted the DMV about their needing a test, which neither would have been able to pass. Rather than take the test, they just didn't respond and the revocation was automatic. But, they still had their old licenses in their billfolds and thought everything was fine.
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We live in Ohio. She brought up the fact that people with vision in only one eye drive just fine. That's true. I'm one of them. But my eyes have been like that since birth. And I adjusted to it with no problem. She has to hold her eye shut (won't wear a patch) and the pain keeps her distracted. So she's driving with one hand and in pain. Yesterday we were at a food bank together and she stood on top of me at the table stepping on me. She realized she didn't know I was even there as she didn't see me. Scary. If I don't get help from the doctor I'll call the DMV. Her license renewal is coming up soon. I really like this friend and the last thing I want to see happen is a news headline that an elderly lady in her 80's has killed a guy on a bike because she lost control of her car. Happens way too much.
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One thing to remember - the DMV can issue an ID card. Mthr had lost her purse so I stopped by the courthouse in her hometown where she was born and where she married, and we had other documents already to satisfy the new ID requirements. I went in and told them we needed to get her an identification card. I offered to fill out the form for her and the examiner whispered to me, is she turning in her license and I said yes. She was none the wiser. She was beyond the ability to drive, but needed an ID for the hospital where she needed cancer surgery (100% successful in removing a softball sized malignancy from her colon). I am so thankful I took her for an ID!
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Wicked bad driver FIL flunked the drivers test the first time, so they let him take it again and somehow he passed... He's had several accidents in the last months, which no one would know except one of his sons is his ins agent!
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whaleyf: She needs to be seen by a retinologist to be tested for Macular Degeneration stat. Bear in mind that there are two types of the eye disease-dry (lesser) or wet (worse). Take the car keys away before she kills someone.
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Just to lighten it up a little: My hubby was seeing an occupational therapist early in the dementia journey. He couldn't understand what they were doing for him--nor could I really, so I suggested that at the next appointment he ask the OT exactly what the agenda was. The OT said, "I can do three things for you: First, I can help you with your upper body strength; second, I can help you with your memory, and third, I can administer a test to see if you can go back to driving." (The caregiver and I just about fell out of our chairs at that one!) But hubby replied, "I don't need any help with my upper body strength, I can do that myself; I don't need any help with my memory because my wife remembers everything (!!!), and I know I can drive a car but I could never pass the written test." Needless to say, that was the end of OT for us! :)
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I just contacted the DMV and was told that a doctor needs to fill out a confidential physician report or I need to have a doctor write a letter and then I can file a report that would start the process of suspending the license. However, no doctor = no action by DMV. I would call your states DMV and find out what they require. My dad's optometrist said his 1 good eye had enough vision for him to drive. Uugghh!

Kudos to you for caring enough to do something about this. Hugs from all us drivers!
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I told the doctors (two of them) that she would like to know if it's safe for her to drive. They never answered that question. Avoided it like the plague. I asked them point blank, should she be driving? They ignored my question. It looks like she'll be loosing her eye. No fix for it. However, they did put a long lasting contact lens in the eye which is suppose to stop the pain. He called it a "bandaid contact". She has calcium deposits on her eye and her cornea is swollen which is causing the pain. Her eye was able to stop squinting and she said it wasn't hurting. However, she is very sensitive to light. I did talk her into getting a good pair of wrap around glasses that would block the sun. So maybe that will help. I noticed (while I was driving her) that she wasn't having any problems keeping her eye open during the drive. A huge improvement. I will be checking with the DMV because her birthday is next week and see what they think. I'll also be calling her brother's and reading them the riot act about fixing her junker of a car. She's going for an e-check today and the car is probably going to pass.
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