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Long story short....... My mother took a couple of falls at the beginning of the month ended up in the hospital then transferred over to a Nursing Home Rehab center, 20 days came and went of course they'll keep her for $170.50 a day, which we don't have two pennies to rub together.


Now mother is back home and the past 2 days has been zero sleep for me because mom got another taste of people doing everything for her and she now treats me like hired help, I beg and plead for her to stop and she just laughs.


Yeah' she's got early onset Dementia how much of this is the Dementia I'm not sure anymore, I feel so helpless I keep hoping this will pass it did the last time but this time it's far worse then the last.


I'm her full time Caregiver, she refuses to listen to me, lies to me constantly about her exercising and as I said we don't have the money for a Nursing Home, Medicaid isn't even willing to help she receives just enough to keep them from getting involved but not enough to pay for care so I'm forced to deal with it, I guess I could just abandon her but I'm sure somehow I'd be the one paying the price legally.


Since she came home every night, every 10 minutes she's calling out for me because she needs to simply bother me, rarely does she actually need anything.


Do I just ignore her?


I'm either going to have a nervous break down or a heart attack at this rate, what does one do when you don't qualify for any help what so ever?


Someone tell me something positive please?

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Update 9:25am :
Called her doctor back and he wants me to bring her into his office at 4pm.......... going to be a long day.

Why this has to be like pulling teeth with these people I don't know, I'm not expecting miracles just medical aid of a situation that wasn't there before hand.
Why the Patient and the Caregiver have to pay the price is mind numbing to me.

I'll Update once again after 4pm for anyone that's keeping up with this story.
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Been a long day surprised we actually had in home nursing come in that's a plus, physical therapy dropped by and we've got someone from the same healthcare company coming in for speech therapy and aid to help mom bathe.

4pm doctors appointment went pretty good the doctor felt the same as I and took mom off the Depakote he felt the dose was just way to high and followed that by removing mom off of the Temazepam which I felt months ago mom shouldn't have been on, ended up giving mom Risperidone as a sleep aid....... Hope that works.
I skipped moms midday dose of Depakote and she seemed to be coming around later in the afternoon I guess tonight will be the tell. I've managed to chill out a bit myself, but I am simply drained at this point.

Thank you too everyone that jumped in and lent an ear and all the advise, we have a Social Worker coming by in the next few days, don't know what good that'll do but one day at a time.

I'm just glad this website exist and people like yourselves came to my aid in a time of frustration and need Thank you all again fingers crossed we start making progress back in the right direction.
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I have found with my mother I just stop answering her every call. Yes, I live with her, but I was going through what you are going through now. I took back my power. No need to yell or be mean. You simply tell her you are not her slave and you will do what you can. Start taking some of her wants off your to-do-list. And yes ignore her when you no she is safe and really doesn't need anything!



As Dr. Phil states "don't let the tail wag the dog." Stop letting someone with a broke brain run the show!!

Yes, I know it is hard prehaps you could take Barb advice.

I am sorry that you are going through a hard time.

Hugs!
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madhatter632 Jun 2019
I hate to think I have to ignore her but yes it seems my only option at this point, she's just calling out to call out........
I went in to check on her again and she managed to get herself to the bathroom.... That proves to me she's playing me.
She doesn't want to go back to the Nursing Home, she doesn't want me to call any emergency services, she's more capable, the only think I can figure is she' doing this because she wants attention........and sympathy.
I just hate to think when and if she does have an emergency I'm not going to know.
She claims I hate her because I'm refusing to give into her every whim.
This is beyond a nightmare she's creating, someone has to be home with her 24/7 being the only son I somehow got stuck with this.
It all began when I came to help my father because mother refused to help him, her excuse was it was too much like work, she managed to steal from me after dad passed and I was working on getting away from her then she started having health issues I should have listened to dad and got far far away when I had the chance.

To be honest Dementia or not my mother has always been like this her whole life she's always felt entitled it's just gotten worse and my sympathy has begun to wear out for her with all her false alarms.
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I am somebody who believes in taking care of family, but I also believe that we shouldn't be doormats either.

I have read your post a few times and what sticks out is time after time your mom shows she doesn't care about anybody including herself! Maybe she really can't help it...maybe it is dementia...or maybe she is hardwired this way!

But here is a few life lessons that I have learned: 1) you can not help somebody if they won't help themselves. 2) We teach people how to treat us. 3) If you don't take care of yourself and stick up for yourself no one else will.

It is by belief that you have done all you can! I am with Barb she needs more care than you can give her and it sounds to me (just by reading your post and replys) it is time for you to jump ship!

I know you love her, but who do you love more her or yourself? And it is ok if you pick yourself!

If it was me and I could not get her Dr to do anything I would call 911 the next time she goes on a rampage. You can not keep living this way.

And yes I do understand that there are medications that can have a bad reaction to the elderly like Benzodiazepines. But at least if she is in the hospital they can get her stable and give you a break.

It really bugs me that you are bending over for her and she just laughs at you and mocks you!

My heart breaks for you!
Hugs!!!
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madhatter632 Jun 2019
I know and understand most of what you're saying......... mom has always been a narcissist and self center type of individual.... I'm not saying that because of recent events or just to be vengeful, this is how she was when I was a child even, it's only gotten worse with age.

I'm hoping to hear back from her doctor sooner than later I'll give them another 10 minutes and start calling them again, I'm hoping her doctor admits her for observation something the NH should have done but apparently failed at, whether that's due to under staffing and overcrowding I don't know and really don't care this should have been dealt with while she was in the NH not after discharge and if they couldn't deal with it then they should have sent her to the Hospital or wherever she needs to go to be treated correctly obviously the home is not the place to be testing these drugs for interactions like this.

Just finished having to bathe her another action she had little to no issues with before the NH this go round, there's just something not right with her I know this and I'm helpless to convince the doctors it seems...... This really is all new, literally it's as if she just snapped mentally hours after getting home, I knew it was going to be a chore but nothing like this, this is something I've never seen before almost as if the drugs have flipped a switch and short circuited her.

I complain a lot about the level of medical care in this area of FL maybe because one would assume being a retirement state the healthcare would be better then this but.......... a big NOPE is the answer.
Sad thing is even with my limited knowledge I'm normally right more then the Doctors around this place, to me that's frightening.

Still no call backs so back to the phone I go, for those interested I will update..... thank you all for the support.
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I'd call and leave an urgent message with the service.

YOU aren't failing your mom. She needs more care (at least right now) than one person can humanly give.

She should have been discharged with home care. The rehab discharge folks failed her there.

She may have developed a UTI. This may be a reaction to medication. But dear person, this is NOT your job to figure out. It's the $%#@ medical establishment that is at fault here, not you.
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Huge hugs go out to you! You are doing a great job! I understand that feeling of helplessness, hopeless, is this my life?, fml , I've felt that desperation, which led me to this site. Every situation and experience is different. I've read many think it may be medical issue, only you "know" your mother. My mother has been manipulative her whole life so I automatically assume it's that, but most recently she had a uti which was making her more difficult than usual. better to side with safety . I wish I had answers how to handle the emotional turmoil we feel within ourselves, I'm also trying to navigate through those emotions. this site has been helpful, and gives me an odd comfort knowing others are going through similar experiences and emotions. Ok, I'm not as crazy as I thought.. it's all normal emotions. Lol.
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madhatter632 Jun 2019
Thank you........
These past few days since I brought her home from the NH have been like they gave me the wrong person... She just snapped.....
As I said the only thing that's changed is they put her on those Alzheimer meds and Depikote........
This morning she's managed to go to the bathroom everywhere but the bathroom and has no idea she's going to the bathroom, add to that everything else I'm dealing with.
I expected some adjustment this isn't my first rodeo with her but it's never been like this.

Waiting for her Doctor to get in for a call back to see what I need to do that's supposed to be around 8:45
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Just read your last reply. Yes, in that case, I'd call the EMTs.
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madhatter632 Jun 2019
The only "Home Care" they discharged her with was in home physical therapy..........

I'm just about breaking down in tears, mom is calm right now because she thinks I'm getting ready to send her back to the NH that threat alone has put a cork in her behavior, temporary as it might be at this point I'll take the quiet.

I appreciate the words but still feels like I'm failing....... I know it's the system that's failed worse deep down but it's hard to overcome.

I have had people warn me about these types of medications causing these issues but I don't want to just stop although it's only been about 8 or 9 days she's been on most of the memory meds.

Just in my opinion it seemed more like the Hospital & NH were just doping her up to make her easy for them to deal with and sent her home to me like this.

What started this was when mom fell and I found her covered in blood from a head gash (back of the head) it was an impact type gash as she didn't hit anything but the carpeted floor in our house, my guilt somewhat went away when I got a call from that NH the first week she was there when they told me my mother had an "Unsupervised" fall and they had to rush her to another ER to be checked....... I could tell you more horror stories like that with this level of care that we have around here with just me and my mom, lord knows how many others these medical places are screwing up.

Calling her doctors service won't do any good they never respond to anything in a hurry typical message is "If it's an Emergency hang up and dial 911" is the response I'll get......... Yes I've tried to get mom to find a different doctor but she's been seeing this one for over 15 years, once you get in front of him he seems caring and compassionate enough but nothing is ever of importance to his office staff....

At this point mom is just down and out on the couch I'm just going about my normal morning routine as if she isn't there and she's staying quiet or she's finally passed out from being up all night ranting and raving.

Just verified her doctors office opens at 8am......... I think I can make it until then at least I hope.
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My heart's going thumpety-thump, too, reading your post. I remember, I remember.

I have felt as you do over two separate stages of life. The first when I had small children, and the second when I became mother's full-time, morphing into 24/7, caregiver.

I am not one of the world's natural-born nurturing types, shall we say. I loved these people very very dearly, but the *intrusiveness* and the *relentlessness* of their needs and demands drove me up the wall. And although normally a quick learner, I always seemed to take ages to work out a good, smooth system, and always just in time for everything to change and demand something more or different.

If I had to narrow it down to one thing which I wish I had made myself accept from the beginning: do not waste time or effort on trying to resist the role you are stuck with. It will pass. It will pass quicker and less painfully if you seize hold of it.

Taking a few items at random:

Your mother mocks you when you plead with her not to call you for nothing, time after time. I know you only said "she just laughs." But her laughter mocks how you are feeling, whether that is her intention or not. It must break your heart, in the moment.

Don't plead with her. If she calls you, and you go, and she needs nothing, give her a neutral acknowledgement and then withdraw. If you allow it to become emotional, you are providing her with stimulation - in a way which you don't want to encourage - and hurting yourself.

She lies to you about exercising. What, she claims she's already done them? Fine, twice won't hurt - let's go. Take control of the prescribed exercise program and then she can do it or not do it (you can't force her), just as she pleases - but she can't feed you b/s about it.

What about routine? She's only been back for two days, you're already exhausted, and now you're dreading another sleepless night. It is HARD to structure a routine when you are knackered and desperate and feeling helpless, I know. But this is about regaining some sense of control, and it is worth it. So what's the shape of the day? - meals, personal care, activities, rest, sleep?

Are you also trying to combine this with any kind of paid work, self-education, social relationships (HA! I know, but you may be)?

Who else comes to the house?
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The fact that the social worker has been assigned is great!

She can help you get respite care for your mom.

She can help you untangle the problem of why mom got discharged when she had a supplemental policy that would have paid for another 80 days of rehab.

You can talk to her about possibly getting your mom readmitted to the rehab.

You can talk to her about your burnout and the fact that you need mom placed in long term care.

You can ask for a referral for help to figure out your financial snafu.

I'm glad things are going better!
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madhatter632 Jun 2019
I was hoping her doctor was going to readmit to at least get the meds under control but that was not the situation............

At this point I'd love for mom to be readmitted and hopefully stabilized before they dumped her back onto me but I doubt that'll will happen

Pretty sure they all know I'm more of a bowl of jello at this point, the 20 days mom was in the NH rehab center just didn't seem long enough keep in mind this has been my full time gig going on 5 years now and before mom was my father......... I've got over 10 years into doing this and that's also 10 years with little to no help........

As far as things going better mom's memory is still going seems like everyday now she's losing a chunk of her memory, mom doesn't even ask to go to the bathroom anymore she just goes in her diaper.

Social Worker coming in today is the only good news I've had since Sunday.......... Finger crossed.
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I didn't expect to see all these responses been a bit busy with mom so let me do a update as of June 29, 2019 to get everyone up to speed and maybe help others.

Mom went from the Hospital to the NH rehab center she was being treated for a UTI in the Hospital I didn't find out until a few days after bringing mom home that the NH did not continue to treat my mothers UTI, so mom went 20 days with a UTI not being treated, when the home health nurse came in she collected a urine sample and 3 days later I was told mom still had the UTI, but by this point her Dementia symptoms had turned severe, so I sidestepped her doctor and called Hospice they stepped in took over the care management and things are getting better, I'm still dealing with a ton of crap but the medical ball was dropped by the NH in a big way and it left me in a bad situation.
Now mom is off many of the drugs except her blood pressure meds and she's not as bad, mornings seem to be the time she has some clarity and it's somewhat possible to speak to her a bit, she's not eating a whole lot, sleeping way too much and still lost in a different world in her head but she somewhat remembers who I am, I'll take it.
Nurses that have meet my mother have all told me to prepare which is something I've already been going through..... Lots of crying when I'm alone, but the people at Hospice are really trying to be here for me, it's helping.

I've just learned the hard way that this NH is the second time around for us and it's also the second time we've had issues with them, but not many to choose from locally and the others from what I understand aren't any better, Florida's Senior care system is horrible and don't expect any help from the state at all, the only thing they want is control of the finances and any property the can weasel out of your families hands, makes me sick to my stomach.

In the end the NH didn't treat mom for a UTI for 2 weeks, gave her 15 minutes a day in rehab, stole most of her clothing that wasn't marked even though they were informed family was doing the laundry and then at the end of it all mom's feet were the size of balloons and they discharged her gave me a pat on the back and said with a smile "Good Luck Buddy." and sent me and mom on our way.......... regardless to say I'm a bit beyond peeved.

Thankfully things are getting better and Hospice comes through, when they say they're going to do something they do it, that's all I really needed was medical to simply do what they said they were going to do, and anything I feel I need Hospice will get it done for me, thank God for those people.

Monday I've got a meeting with Hospice Respite care to help me when I need it so that's even more pressure off my back.

Mom's doctor kept acting like he had final say in whether Hospice would be able to get involved in the end Hospice came in did their interview and less then 24 hours later we were admitted to the Hospice Home care, mothers doctor had no say in the decision in the end.
My suggestion is if it's bad and you've got the medical diagnosis don't wait just call your local Hospice and see if they can help, don't let the doctors do to you what they did to me and prolong this so they can keep making a buck.
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