My 89 year old father just got out of a week’s stay in the hospital that left him weak and needing help to do almost everything in life. He lives in an assisted living home with my mother and until he went into the hospital he was totally independent. Suddenly now he can’t seem to find a reason to continue to live. It makes me so sad to see him this way. He has always been the most positive person I know in life. Now he says he has nothing to look forward to except death. Any ideas?
Listen to his concerns. Ask him how he feels, rather than just responding with a sunny retort.
The doctor will likely immediately reach for the prescription pad.
Regsrdless, see whether you can get your father’s interests reignited. Maybe some excursions would help.
if he adds in some activities, increases personal interactions… think distraction and reconnection to that which he has always enjoyed. Music, films, physical activity, food…. My parents loved antiquing and that almost always started conversations about happy memories.
Doesn’t aging make us all feel this way? I can imagine it only gets more frustrating as we see more of our friends pass away and we lose our independence.
My dad did not want antidepressants, but they helped him feel happy again.
Sometimes only meds will fix this level of depression. No shame in that, we all need help at certain times in life.
Best of luck
I've had to adopt this way of thinking with my daughter who suffers from anxiety/depression. I have to tell myself that this is why she has a psychiatrist, a therapist and is on medication. I don't have the skills or the training to make her "happy"; this is something she has to work on with her therapist. It's rough; but I tried for too long to try and make her "better". It was causing me problems with MY mental health.
Her doctor finally told me "You're not responsible for anyone else's happiness but your own". I try to repeat this mantra when I find myself being sucked into other people's (including but not limited to my daughter) unhappiness.
If he likes to do volunteer work, you might want to let the activities director know where he/she might find an extra pair of hands. If he likes dogs, he could volunteer to care for a pet when a resident is hospitalized or infirm.
In addition, try to cheer him up. Again, don’t be dismissive, but you can still try tp help. Ask the Dr for an antidepressant. Exercise is very important, that’s a real game changer. Also, companionship from family and/or people his own age who are doing well. Music he likes, food he likes, books (audible/podcast too), TV shows, movies. If feasible, go to places he likes to visit. Pets are another thing, if he enjoys animals. Not suggesting he get a pet, that would be a little much, but visiting people who can bring there pet. A bird feeder outside a window to enjoy to the birds. Playing games (cards, board games etc) with others. Flowers, plants, a container garden for him to tend.
There are so very many, many things that can bring joy. Hospitals are the worst and can really bring a person down.
However, listen to him and understand, he is in a different stage now and although you should try things to cheer him up, he sees he is nearing the end, and that’s ok, even though it hard to accept. It’s hard to see a loved one grieving. Good luck, and please repost if you find anything that helped.
Did you get Dad to his PCP? Get "in home" physical therapy?
Thank you Ann Reid for the thought, I am going to play some tonight.
I agree to consider meds for mood, which may help him be more willing to do rehab, if this is an option. Your mom benefits from his improvement, too.
It is still all very fresh, so give him (and yourself) a little time to come to grips with his new normal.
I think trying to talk people out of their feelings as they face the end of life can be unwittingly insensitive. "But the grandkids! But you're still here! But I love you!" type of comments diminishes the validity of their feelings. We all die. Your dad is looking that in the face right now. Be there with him and let him accept the facts.
Death doesn't have to be something to fear or dread. Help your dad make that transition by listening to him. Ask questions like, "What do you think happens after we die?" or "What are you most proud of in your life?" or "What was it like when you first met Mom?" Don't try to change his feelings because you're scared. And I get it. You ARE scared of life without your dad. That's completely valid, but he's probably not the person you should be telling that to. Look into some therapy for yourself and take good care.
Listen to him.....
Be present with him...
Affirm his feelings....
As painful as it may be to listen to his " laments", it is important to give him permission to voice and vent as he needs to .....as long as he is safe.
Call his faith leader, pastor, rabbi, priest etc. and be sure that they are in regular visits with him. If he does not practice a faith, perhaps a local chaplain or a social worker .
If he is a veteran, perhaps enlist VA veterans support.
Illness brings grief and what is called " spiritual distress", "the loss of meaning, hope, purpose and direction". It will take time and energy and patience as his " new normal" evolves and accepts the present. It is not clear from your note what diagnosis or prognosis your father has. In addition to being sure that he is receiving the physical exercise other recovery needs met,( as he is able) it is vital that he have opportunity for conversation on his topic of choice, perhaps with you, other family, his faith leader, others, stay hydrated with water ( as his physician directed plan of care allows), read to him from books or papers of his choice, offer sound nutrition choices per physician directed diet, offer options for him to be helpful to others while he is aging/ or in recovery perhaps he can send cards or notes to veterans or some other outreach doable from home. Love him....aging brings so much change....and change wroughts grief .....grief from past is often relived, present grief and, grief about the future, the unknown
( anticipatory grief)
Get grief support for him and YOURSELF......your self care is equally important.....
Your father is grieving his decline.
You are grieving his decline.
All of the many physical, emotional, spiritual changes happening to him
( and you , although different) bring a fragility and uncertainty. Getting help and assessing both your needs with professionals will assist you both as you tread the waters of aging and illness.....
Peace.
A week in a hospital can be depressing. Its a change in routine and there can be delirium involved. Elderly do not do well with change. Maybe a trip to his PCP would help. Don't wait for that "see ur primary in 2 weeks". When my Mom was in the hospital they screwed with their meds. Mom was on 80mg of B/P meds when she went in with pain from a back fracture. They upped it to 160 mg. I asked why at discharge, they said because of the pain, the fracture was repaired so no pain any more. Mom couldn't get off the couch. PT said her B/P was very low and called Moms PCP and he took it back to the 80mg and she was back to normal.
Ask the Nurse at the AL if Dads present meds were adjusted by the hospital or new ones added. My DH never had high B/P until he went in the hospital for AFib. They were able to get it under control. At discharge I asked why B/P meds. Was told because of the AFib, I said no AFib now. Waited that 2 wks they recommend, Dr. told my DH he should not be walking and took him off the meds.
The Hospital Drs do not consult with the patients primary.
If Dads meds have been adjusted or added to, this maybe his problem. If no "in home" therapy was set up, I'd get that done too. The Nurse maybe able to help u with this by calling Dads primary. She will need an order from the primary to change meds and set up in home which is paid by Medicare.
However, by the time my Dad was in his 90s he was over it. He had had a wonderful life. He was exhausted and wanted only to sleep. He was able to discuss this with me, and I had many patients as a nurse who were able to discuss with me that they were exhausted now by life and ready to go. They told me they couldn't talk honestly with families because "they don't want to and won't hear it".
So my advice is to talk honestly with Dad about his feelings. Tell him that he may be ready to go and you can understand that but that you are not ready to lose him; ask him if there is anything you can do to make him look forward to a bit more time with you. Be certain to honor his wishes about end of life, as that's what he is looking at.
I, as a nurse, am now a RETIRED nurse of 80. I know personally what many of my patients felt. I have had a good life. My children are approaching retirement age. I have seen much and done much and traveled. I am well and able still (happily) and I can still get around, but I am ready. There is no upside to the inevitable losses of aging. We lose out balance, our eyes, our ears, our ability to tolerate food, our stamina, our skin elasticity, our breathe, our hair, eventually our minds and all that makes us us. There is no going back from that long slow slide down. It is daunting. Many of us are ready, after a long life lived.
Talk with Dad, and with his doctor. Ask if a mild anti depressant might serve as a bridge over this last illness, and a willingness to go on a bit. Accept the truth of what your Dad feels, would be my advice. It would be such a gift to him. I will never forget my last honest conversations with my Dad. They were a great gift to us both.
My heart goes out to both of you.
My in-laws were just the opposite. It was so refreshing to have these "death conversations" with them because, while no one WANTS to die, they were very positive, yet pragmatic, about the end of their lives. I've chosen to be positive, like them, when talking to my own children about death. Death is a part of life. Everyone will face it.
You're so right. We get to an age (with our various ailments) when we're just done with living. Our bodies hurt and there's really nothing to do about that. Some elders stay totally engaged in their waning years but others (like my parents) just want to go. They were so depressed about it. It's hard as a child to accept those feelings from your parents, but as I age, I'm getting it.
After my parents had past, I got interested in doing a Family Tree as I wanted to know more about my parent's own cousins, aunts/uncles. Oh how I wished my folks were still around to answer questions, and to help identify old photos.
I bet your Dad would love to hear "Dad, I need your help on some research". Worth a try.
If there is a social worker available in the Al where your dad resides, ask for their recommendation for the psychiatrist who sees residents there.
I was surprised to learn that several of the residents in my LO’s facility received psychiatric services, and she was seen by a very competent, gentle person who after learning a little about her from me, her POA, interviewed her with me present, and prescribed small amounts of geriatric approved medications and saw LO every couple months.
The change was gradual, but heartwarming.
There was a planned schedule of activities at her AL, including music, arts and crafts, religious activities for all major denominations, and LO’s favorite, cooking!
If your dad had any enthusiasms or hobbies previously, bring small reminders with you to his residence, maybe a magazine about whatever he liked before. See if you can think of adaptive ways of restoring his interest.
Music is very healing, and one of the easier ways to provide some sensory input when depression is a problem.
Bless you for being sensitive to his situation, and big hope that you’ll be able to come up with some solutions!