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My mom has moderate Alzheimer’s disease and has expressed many times her desire to stay at home. Her power of attorney tricked her (by lying) and moved her into a memory care assisted living home. She is miserable, depressed, and cries all the time. I want to help her get out. What can I do, if anything at all?

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I think you are having trouble accepting this change in your mother. Who wouldn’t? Watching your parent go from a vibrant, independent person to a person who struggles with even the simplest tasks is a hard pill to swallow. Sometimes one family member really “sees” the decline before other family members recognize it for what it is. It sounds like this may be your situation. It also sounds like your mother is where she needs to be and where she will be cared for and safe. Taking her out may sound good because you can’t stand to see her so sad, but unless you have a very extensive support system and limitless finances you would do more harm than good by helping her “get out”.
Don’t do it. Do make peace with the POA if you can - and visit her often to try to bring some happiness to her if you can.
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Lollypoppins: She is where she needs to be. Kindly give no more thought of helping her to get out.
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My father also wanted to be home, he could not be left alone ie; couldn’t drive, would leave stove on, couldn’t remember when to take medication mobility issues etc etc. My father came to live with us at our home my husband and I, I as you love my Dad and did everything for him without regret. After 2 1/2 years I and my husband needed a break. Like many people have said we couldn’t go out to dinner by ourselves, or go to the beach for an afternoon stroll. Even going grocery shopping it one or the other while the other stayed home with Dad.
My husband and I had just retired and had all these plans which we put on the back burner. One of our friends same age passed and that was the breaking point. We talked about our situation and came to the agreement that we would place Dad in Assisted Living facility for spring and summer. I had POA medical. It is now the end of summer and we have come to the conclusion that Dads going to be ok where’s he at. I visit three times a week and bring him on outing, doctors Being a caregiver 24/7 to a family member with dementia is a very very difficult situation.
I look at it now like we hired a group of people to help my husband and myself take care of my Dad in the best possible safety happy environment.
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You don't want to help her get out. What you really want to do is help her adjust to her new situation. She probably is having a hard time adjusting since her world has been turned upside down with the new environment, new people, new routines, etc.

What can you do? Visit her often. Talk to her, listen to her, followup on her complaints, and tell her what is going on, and convince her that where she is, is the right place for her by pointing out the advantages that she has by being in MC. The major issue with MC is that the nurses and residents there, are incapable of creating and maintaining deep relationships. That is something you can fill in, you can be that person that she can share stuff with, you can be the voice of reason, you can be the person that allows her to be her no matter how she is feeling.

Listen to her, question her complaints by asking for more details, followup on the legitimate complaints, be honest with her, and if anything involves saying that she wants out or to go home, point out the good things about staying just where she is.

Miserable, depressed and cries all the time unfortunately is normal for people with memory issues. So is paranoia, anxiety, short tempered, calling out, etc. Dementia is a horrible disease.

Personally, I don't like the drugs. In my own personal case, it is too easy to overdose and make me drowsy and my head woozy. Instead, help your Mom to feel like she has the ability to control her environment. Now is the time to step up and be the type of person you've always admired in others.
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Her POA did the right thing. Your mom just needs to be put on Lexapro. Most patients transitioning into a Personal Care home have an unpleasant experience. They adapt after a month or two. Please don't cause your mom to feel torn between you and her POA. Try to show more acceptance towards the idea . Being a Caretaker to a Dementia loved one is not for the weak. Look for the positives.
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I beleive that in order to enter memory care requires a doctor statement that she is unsafe when alone at home. What would be your alternative plans? If her POA has an official paper then it will be mighty difficult for you to reverse it in court.
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What does "getting her out of there" look like? If the goal is simply to return her to her home - put on the brakes right now - because people are not just placed in memory care for no reason.

If you plan to be her 24/7 care provider - perhaps make that offer to the POA. But fully expect zero compensation for doing that job and zero assistance- because the POA has already done what they think is in her best interest.

When you say they "tricked her" - what do you mean? Because many people with memory care issues quickly lose short term memory and may not even recall the conversations leading up to the decision. It is far more likely that she was made aware but does not remember. Or as lealonnie said - a therapeutic lie was the only option to get her somewhere safe.

As far as being unhappy - you don't meet too many people that are happy about being moved to facility based care. It's not home, they no longer have full control of things like their meals (timing, the food itself, etc), they have to wait their turn for assistance.

But the greater question is - does she NEED to be there? If so, perhaps your better option is to visit more, call more, encourage her to find peace there.

Please don't encourage the return home - that only makes things harder for her.
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Using therapeutic fibs, or "lying" as you're calling it, is 100% necessary when caring for an elder with dementia. It's not fair to say mom was lied to and tricked into placement in Memory Care Assisted Living because oftentimes it's a requirement to get them to safety! Do you think it's easy to make such decisions or that they're made out of hatred or spite?? It sounds like you have an awful lot to learn about Alzheimer's in general before you can even think about becoming a full time caregiver for your mom! A 24/7 commitment of this nature requires knowledge, compassion, empathy and understanding. And the ability to recognize when in home care is no longer possible.

Why did mother not appoint you as her POA, I wonder? That's something to think about as you decide whether or not to hire an attorney to help you get conservatorship for her. It's good to note that even if you're successful in getting her out of the Memory Care, she STILL may cry and beg to go "home" once she gets back to her house. Many elders with one of the dementias do just that even when they're AT home.

Best of luck to you in your quest to keep mom safe.
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Hi lollypop, my brother who is POA sees my mom as not demented at all. I see her differently than he does, my opinion on my brother is he is in denial.

So I'm wondering if maybe the POA sees somethings you do not. Or are not ready to admit to.

Also the POA is responsible in caregiving so maybe the POA just wants your mom someplace safe.

I didn't read others comments, I'm not sure if I'm repeating what others have said. If so I do apologize. Often I like to reply without others though and feelings in my head.

Best of luck, welcome to are forum
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This is something that needed to be done, she's safe and cared for. My mother left her home when she knew I was on my way, I missed her by 5 minutes! She got into a vehicle with a stranger??? Turned out the police said it was a direct hire cab that she called, we found her. It raced through my mind, 87yo woman, dead,thrown into a ditch! Now, can the POA do anything differently? No.
Make mom more comfortable in her new surroundings and any time she brings up going home, turn it around to something else. If her mind is feeble, as many here have said, going home could be a remembrance of a time in her life that was good, not necessarily the home she was in.
Everyone promises that the loved one can stay in their home but they never knew the underlying conditions of what it meant. It's not safe and it's not the child's responsibility to take them in. It's our responsibility to protect them now, do what's best for them. We are the parents and that's a tough one to get over, they aren't the same as they were. It's heartbreaking.
PS I found out that window stickers, colored plastic ones,really brightened the room. The sunlight and colors are soothing.
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As said, Adjustment at memory care will happen. Get an ombudsman to talk with your mother. If you take her back home, you may get so stressed from her care that you may die ahead of your mother after what may be years of care.
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Your question may be answered by looking at the answers to Bob350'squestion about how to convince his wife that she is already home. Home may not be the building she lived in, but rather a childhood location or memories of a happier time.
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Contact an attorney.
Every situation is different.

Learn how to speak to someone who has Alzheimer's.
Google TEEPA SNOW, watch her You Tubes, webinars.
Ask MD about medication.

Gena / Touch Matters
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Who is your mom's POA? And how did this person "trick" her into memory care? The assessment process and acceptance into memory care are pretty stringent and require a doctor's 602 report (at least here in CA it is needed). It is one of the hardest decisions, ever, for those of us who have had to place a loved one in memory care. And many of us have had to use fibs or trickery to get them moved in as smoothly as possible. No one in memory care wants to be there, and few actually would agree to be placed in advance. But are they better cared for in the memory care than at home? Is the person with Alzheimer's safe living at home? You said you want to help her get out. Did your mom specifically asked you for help? And if she is out, what will her care plan look like? Are you willing to care for her or provide 24/7 care?

I feel your angst, but sometimes we may project what we desire rather than looking at the whole picture and what's best for the person suffering from AD. Perhaps your issue is with the person with POA. If so, it'd be advisable to talk things out with this person and come up with a workable solution that's best for your mom and everyone involved. In the meantime, try to help your mom as others have already suggested. Wishing you the best.
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The POA is in control at this point. No person suffering from Denentia or ALZ should be home on their own. Both are unpredictable. Of course she is miserable because she is not in familiar surroundings. Like said, you need to encourage her to get involved with activities they have.
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Nothing can, or should, be done. Mom is where she needs to be. A person with moderate Alz cannot live alone.

Kudos to the PoA for doing what needed to be done.
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Many seniors have a difficult adjustment.
You can help her by not giving her any hope that she can return to independent living. That's no longer possible for her. There is what we "want" and then there is what we realistically can expect. They are two different things.
Tell her you are sorry but now she needs more care, that the move was necessary for her health and safety, that you will visit and are there to listen.
She is heartbroken and in despair. This is where we come to and it's very difficult. You aren't responsible for aging, for dementia, for heartbreak, for happiness.
Simply be kind and listen and tell her you understand how difficult this loss must be for her, and that you care.
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Sure you can "get her out"
Then what.
Are you prepared to give her the 24/7 care that she needs?
Are you prepared to give up your life and time with your friends and family to care for her?
And if your goal is to "keep m om at home" does that mean her home or yours? If her home are you prepared to move into her home? Are you prepared to move your family into her home?
If you are going to keep her in her home and you are not going to move in you will need caregivers 24/7.
If you move her into your home she will still want to "go home". (and if you read a current post...even if she is in her own home she may not recognize it as her home)

In order to move her you will have to prove in court that you can care for her better, or at least as well as the MC facility she is in.
You will have to prove that the POA for Health and the POA for Finances did not make the best decision for your mom.
You will also have to obtain Guardianship through the Court and you will have to comply with all the rules and regulations of Guardianship (not easy, nor inexpensive)

If you want to help mom...
Visit.
Reinforce that she is safe, that she is in her new home.
Bring her treats that you know she likes.
Take her for walks around her new home.
Before you leave get her involved with an activity and quietly slip out, don't make a big deal of you leaving.
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You have absolutely no recourse now, and since your mom is now where she needs to be, I would just try and make the most of it for not only your mom but for yourself as well.
You must remember that folks with broken brains will mirror the attitudes of those around them, so make sure that you're positive and upbeat when you go visit her and do things with her that she enjoys.
Dementia sucks, and all we can do for our loved ones with dementia is try and make their lives as good as possible no matter where they live.
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“ I want to help her get out “.

Then what ? Are you prepared to move in with Mom ? Mom needs care 24/7. She can not be alone . You would be giving up your life .

Read threads here in the burn out section . Mom needs a village . She will continue to decline , and the care gets too difficult for one person .

Most elderly say they want to stay in their own home . Your Mom does not understand that she isn’t safe home alone . The focus is now on what she needs , not what she wants .

Try this to help her adjust .
“ Mom , the doctor says this is where you need to be “.

Giving her false hope of leaving , will hinder her adjustment .

Since your Mom is in the correct level of care for her , I doubt you would win an expensive fight for guardianship .
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"What can I do, if anything at all?"
There is much you can do.

Offer emotional support.
Visit or call. Hug or hold hands if that's your way. Let her express her emotions. If she sad, she is sad. It is OK to feel sad. It's normal. Accept that.

Bring little things of interest, cards, photos, flowers. Try to engage your Mom into the activities on offer in Memory Care. Support building connections to people in her new home.

"I want to help her get out".
Why?
How would that help her?

Change focus: To helping her ADJUST.

Alzheimer’s disease progressss from mild to moderate to advanced. People are not able to live independantly & required round the clock care.
Better to be realistic.

PS It is perfectly normal for you to feel sad too.
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