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I live and work abroad several months a year, this I have been doing for 20 years so its nothing new. My father lives on his own ( has done so for years) I work full time, I am 5 hours behind him. He calls me at all sorts of times but mostly when I am at work, he has nothing much to say. He is becoming very forgetful and does not seem to remember when he last called me, that is not a problem I get that and most of the time I take the time to speak with him etc. However some times it is not convenient to talk for example I am on a conference call etc. I cant ignore his call in case it is an emergency, however when he does call and I tell him "sorry dad I cant talk at the moment I am at work on a conference call" for example he gets really nasty with me, tries to guilt trip me, "ok then if you haven't got time then I will call back when its more convenient" all said in a sarcastic voice. It really upsets me, how can I tell him so he understands. I think he has a lot of issues because he has always been so independent and in charge now he is loosing that he is getting nasty.

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So Dad misses you when you're gone. Nothing amiss in that. But this can't be allowed to go on as his "nasty" attitude proves it isn't working for EITHER of you.

No one can "guilt trip" you. You can only do that to/for yourself. When you tend toward wanting to label yourself try to switch it out for a better G-word which is grief. Because guilt infers CAUSATION.
In order to earn the label of guilt you have to have purposely caused something and purposely refused to put it right. That doesn't pertain here, so guilt is off the table.
Grief realizes that this is a sad part of the aging process.

Time to turn off the phone during working hours. In my day, who had one at work? Now we are slaves to them. Let Dad know that you will speak with him BRIEFLY once in the a.m. and once in the p.m., and that the happier and more cheerful he is, the longer you will stay "on the line.
This will be more difficult now that you have a time change, but no one is happier than I that you are across the pond from dad for a few months.

I know you fully understand that enabling dad by allowing this to go on has been a poor way to handle this; moreover it hasn't made Dad any happier. So time for a change (if you are willing).
You can tell Dad "Hon, for a while now we have been doing this call thing, and it isn't working now for me at work, so will have to change". Then tell him how it will be, what times will work. Allow him his anger and upset. These things don't kill.

The whole emergency thing should be set to the side, because realistically, Suky, there's nothing you can DO about an emergency from a world away, is there?
So dad will need to have emergency numbers. Dad is Dad. He is an elder, and set in his ways, and unlikely to change. He's suffering more losses; is more scared; and you may be scared of that, as well.
YOU still can change, if you choose to do so. The solutions here aren't rocket science or I wouldn't have been able to come up with them. They are fairly simple, but they will take perseverance and a kind of "training" given the time that's elapsed. And you will have to be able to be strong enough to sustain his unhappiness and criticism; I bet you ARE strong enough!

I am uncertain where to go with addition of "he is becoming very forgetful".
Don't know your father, his condition, his mental status, whether or not he has dementia, whether or not he lives alone, whether or not he has any support, etc. But I do know this isn't something you can address from a world away. When you are back home an assessment with MD and neuro-psyc eval may be a good place to start to gage just where you are at.

I sure do wish you luck and hope you will update us.
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Let it roll to voice mail. Call him back in an hour or two when it is convenient.

I'm sure Dad does not understand the time difference.
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Let the calls go to voicemail and check them at your convenience.

Who can check on dad in person? It sounds like he's suffering from dementia now and shouldn't be living alone any longer.
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Turn off your cell phone during the day at work, what exactly do you think you're going to do being abroad IF there is an emergency?

If this is beyond your ability to set as a boundary then only answer during your lunch break and tell him that you will not be answering otherwise during your work day.

Guilt is a self-imposed emotion you are doing this to you, he is not. Iyt is all about setting your boundaries and sticking to them.
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Tell him that your company does not allow personal calls and to remember your in separate time zones. When I worked, I told my family to call only in Emergencies. If he can't understand this, then Dementia maybe setting in. Meaning, he cannot live on his own. Maybe it would be a good idea to talk Dad into an Assisted Living where he would have socialization and you would know he is safe.
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A ringing phone does not need to be answered. Caller ID was invented for a reason. Yes, you can ignore his calls. There is another, shorter number we all learned as children he can call if there is an emergency. One that was set up specifically for that purpose.
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I agree to let the calls go to voicemail and then call him when it works in your schedule. When he starts to get negative or nasty, you give him 1 warning about his tone. If it persists, tell him you'll call back at another time.

I also agree that it sounds like he is struggling cognitively and now needs daily help. Maybe when you are back from abroad you can carve out time to be with him and work on a solution because he's only going to get worse.

He needs to get his legal ducks in a row. This means assigning a willing, capable and local PoA. Not much you can do if you're abroad and he needs PoA to manage or make decisions on his behalf. He needs to go to an elder law attorney before his cognitive and memory issues prevent him from creating these legal protections. A person with no PoA will eventually need a legal guardian, either acquired by family ($$$) or a third-party guardian assigned by the courts.

Then, your Dad needs to be taken to his primary care physician for a full physical and cognitive/memory test. The PoA authority is only active when a medical diagnosis is given by a doctor. But he also needs a physical to discount any other health issues that can create dementia-like symptoms.
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AnitaGjen Oct 5, 2024
THIS ^^ !!!!
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Suky, aging parents are just so much fun! I am being facetious.

If you don't want to shut your phone off, at least shut the volume off.

There may not be a way to get him to understand that.

People the age of your dad's, brains are dieing , even if there is no dementia . Many get very entitled to there children's lives.

Start putting down boundaries, now and stick to them.

There should be no guilt here, you did nothing wrong, you can't be there for your dad to call 24/7 and have a life.

Best of luck!
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Can you arrange a daily check-in time with him that coincides with your break or between work and dinner?

If so, don’t answer if he calls at any other time and try to beat him to the punch once in awhile and you call him so he feels like you care about him. Could be he’s feeling insecure with you so far away. Could also be that he’s failing a little bit and feels his power over you, and other things in his life, slipping away…Dads can be weird like that. Whatever the reason, you’re establishing an unnecessarily toxic pattern that’s going to be harder to break the longer it continues.

It may take some time but once he gets comfortable with a pre-arranged call time, when he calls outside of that you will know it’s an emergency.
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Suky66, welcome to the forum. When you get a chance please fill out your Profile page, such as what is your Dad's age, and what health issues does he have. Also, are you his son or his daughter.


If you are your Dad's daughter and your Dad is in his 90's, it may be generational mind-set, such as Dad thinks you should be at home, that you shouldn't be working. Thus the reason for his attitude.


I remember back when my Dad asked me to retire from my career, so I could spend more time helping him and Mom (both in their 90's) around their house. I asked Dad if he had retired to take care of his parents or Mom's parents. He didn't. Dad never asked me again.


Here's an idea, get Dad a second clock that he can keep by his phone, this second clock will be set for your time zone. There are clocks that can be personalized with your city/country name. Also get another clock personalized with "United States" so he won't get mixed up on his own time zone.
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"I live and work abroad several months a year, this I have been doing for 20 years so its nothing new."

So nothing new.. for you.
But I suspect things have changed for your Dad.

Aging can bring unwelcome changes eg to short term memory.

This can appear as, calling more often, forgetting when last called, forgetting what time it is (especially time differences). Feeling anxious without knowing why, who can help me?

My Grandmother started to call more frequently. Often stating I don't know what to do now. We noticed a drop in short term memory, which affects planning. TIAs were diagnosed about this time I believe. Living in assisted living was required by then.

I second a good medical workup.

Dad moving to a supervised environment may be needed.
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You could tell a story Snd say a colleague just hit sacked fir taking calls in work time
And you have been called in with a warning?
turn your phone to message during those hours as you’re not allowed to take calls and if you’re worried check voicemail at lunchtime/evening

apart from anything v you need sone sanity me time
if your father so t be reasonable switch the phone off or press message to voicemail and check later
bjame it in work rules out if yr control it will save any arguments

good luck
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I already answered this some days ago, but today on Facebook saw a meme that said "When phones were attached with a cord, we were free". It's so true.
Again, good luck to our OP.
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ElizabethAR37 Oct 6, 2024
Yes, so true! I wasn't a fan of cellphones when they first came on the scene and nothing in subsequent years has changed my mind. They've been terrible for kids (schools are finally realizing this) and not all that great for society as a whole, IMHO. I have one but it's primarily for use in emergencies. Old school? Yup, guess so.
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Funny this came up, I was at one of are local, small business this week. The owner that I know a little, kept saying dad I really gotta go , I'm working, then he tells her one more thing, she said it again and he tells her one more thing,

He was talking really loud, and I heard a lot of F bombs. She got off the phone and we both giggled, and she apologized.

So you are definitely not alone.
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Block his number during your work hours. Or let his calls go straight to voicemail. Really what could do you do from another country if it was an actual emergency.

Does your father have local people to help him and who could step up in an emergency and handle it if necessary?
If he doesn't have this, he needs it.

The rude sarcasm and snarkiness isn't the real problem here. You can always block a number or hang up on him when he starts.
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You say thanks for understanding and hang up. His tone and words are out of sync, learning to ignore tones is your best bet.
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You mention that he is forgetful. Have you reached out to his doctor to assess him for cognitive or memory problems. You can send in a letter including you father's DOB. So that it will be available on his next visit.
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I understand you worry it may be an emergency. Let it go to voice mail, then check it as soon as you can. If it’s not an emergency call him back at your convenience, that way his calls can pile up all day.
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All of the responses seem to be around ignoring the calls. I am sure your job and life are important, but you would not even have a life without your father. He misses you and feels you don’t have time for him.
Unfortunately, he will not be around much longer. He is running out of time to spend with you, and he may know it. If you truly love your dad, make time for him before it is too late. If he was there for you when you were young, you should return the favor and be there for him. Just saying.
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Beatty Oct 5, 2024
Sending a guilt trip to the OP is neither warranted or helpful.

A lonely or struggly elder needs more than a 'listening post'.

By encouraging the OP to take more calls could directly stop OTHER help (local help) from being found & used.

Think more. Guilt less please.
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Suky66: Let your company be 'the bad guy,' e.g. 'Dad, my company does not allow personal calls. They only permit them on rare emergencies.'
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Change your voice mail. Let your message reflect that your work hours are (days) and (times). Ask for caller to leave a message and you will call back soon. Do not answer him during work hours. Ignore the snark. If he has an emergency, he will leave a message that will let you know this. He should have somebody that lives near him that he should call if he has an emergency - not you. You should be called from the ER.
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If your father has dementia or is close to it, he should be in a facility, not living alone. You can turn off your phone volume during business hours and call him back during your convenience. Explain to your father that you are working and unavailable. If he is in a facility, his staff should call you only for emergencies.
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Once upon a time before cell phones , nobody received personal calls at work unless it was an emergency . I don’t understand why anyone feels guilty not answering a personal phone call at work now .

Tell your father you aren’t allowed to take personal calls during work hours , nor can you have your phone at your desk. Let Dad leave messages and call him back later.

You can’t do anything living so far away .
Does anyone close by check on him ?
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Hmmm. Not answering your phone is your own guilt trip. Fear you might miss that one call that was ergent. If it was an emergency he would more than likely not be the one calling you. If he is calling you many times in a day chances are he won't remember he called you 16times in a row. I would suggest to easy your mind is when you have a lunch break give him a call. Hay pops how ya doing just thought I'd check in. More than likely he will have forgotten his calls to you and respond with what's going on in his day.
What is hard for dad and all of us is the fact that dad now has nothing better to do except listen to the clock tick. Which is a very lonely feeling sowe at the time feel that no one cares which of course isn't true for us but not for them. The best advice I can give is BREATHE just know you are doing the best you can. Try not to take offense to his comments (which isn't easy) chances are he won't remember them and nor should you. Take care your a good daughter don't forget that.
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Sounds like he needs a hobby, something that he can find some buddies to hang out with.
How old is he?
What kind of physical & mental health is he in?
Learning how to fly remote control airplanes is a lot of fun and good comradery.
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As everyone else said...what is it you think you can do if it really is an emergency? Why would he call you in another country instead of 911? The answer is simple, when you are on a conference call, mute your phone. Problem solved. He does not need 24/7 access to you.
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Don't answer the phone. Unless you have the time to talk.
Call him when it is convenient for you. Make sure he isn't the only one initiating contact. It's very important to him to know you are thinking of him.
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My stepdad got like this with me. Mostly it was via text messages, so I couldn't put the phone down. It seemed my reasonableness, when he wanted me to drop everything to do something for him, actually made him more mad! (I'd tell him that's a job for the carers, or personnel at the sheltered housing facility, and I'm working/busy.)

It really affected my mental health because I would fret that he was mad at me. It took me a while to stop caring about his tone and sarcastic responses. When I did, I felt better and able to ignore his whining, as well as more able to manage his unreasonable expectations.

He has learned that I'm no longer going to drop everything. My phone is on silent when I am teaching, and I won't necessarily check it during my break (which is usually spent working). Unfortunately, I do forget to turn it back on until late, but I'm trying to remember!

Stop being at your dad's beck and call. For your own sake.

However, it sounds as if he doesn't understand that he can't disturb you for any reason, so it could be that he has some kind of cognitive decline. I would persuade him to get a check up next time you are back home.
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