LTC resident who recovered from covid, just got 1st vaccine, now just tested positive for covid and sent to the hospital.
Here is an unedited paragraph of a letter we just received from my MIL's facility. The ill person referenced could have been my MIL, but isn't. My MIL also had covid in May, was very sick for 4 weeks but then fully recovered. She just has the 1st vaccine at the same time as the ill resident. MIL got pretty sick from it, but is back to normal now, that we are aware.
"Yesterday, we tested our Gables care center residents for COVID-19. Early in the morning prior to testing, one of our residents experienced a change in condition and was promptly sent to the hospital. This resident was tested in the hospital for COVID-19, and the test result came back positive. The resident remains in the hospital. This resident took the first dose of the COVID vaccine on 1/12 and tested negative for COVID-19 on 1/15. This resident has previously been diagnosed with COVID-19 and recovered, so we are working closely with MDH, the resident’s provider, our medical director, and the hospital staff to look into this matter further as this is not a typical case. "
Hoping this is an anomaly.
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So all bets are off, which is no real surprise. So many people feel that the vaccine is going to be 'the answer' to this virus. But sadly, it probably isn't.
With the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918, it took 10 YEARS for the medical community to figure out what had happened and how things should have been handled.
My hubby got the pzifer vaccine on Monday. Don’t know when he gets the 2nd dose. So far no side effects!!!
Dependent on test USED this could also indicate antibodies to covid in the bloodstream, so again, a wait and see thing. Hope you'll update us and
I would stay tuned. I agree with Geaton that this is an anomaly if this is truly a patient who was recently vaccinated and who already had Covid itself. It would be rare and she would be entered into studies with calls placed to CDC.
I suspect subsequent tests will be negative.
The response: Is the residence change in condition attributed to COVID? The letter doesn't say. We know one can't get the virus from the vaccine. But you can get the virus between shots or even after the final injection. There's much speculation about how effective the first dose is, certainly no where near peak efficacy. Even after the second dose, full protection doesn't come until weeks later.
I was surprised to hear our friend Dr. Fauci, say that the vaccine doesn't prevent one from acquiring the virus, it merely prevents the disease from being “clinically recognizable”, i.e., it prevents symptoms. So in effect, it makes people asymptomatic. But does it prevent those who have been vaccinated from transmitting the disease? Don't know.
The vent: We're still in the very early stages of this pandemic and I'm tired of it. I know some elderly who haven't been out of their house since March, except for groceries. I wonder how many people have died of despair?
One of my favorite quotes comes from Capt. Kirk of the Starship Enterprise when he wanted to be transported back to the ship, “Beam me up Scotty!”. That's about where I am today, ready for transport!
Wishing the person a speedy recovery and many negative tests to come :)
I got my negative PCR result this morning from testing on Tuesday. Then three hours ago an email - on my DAY OFF which I really need! - instructing me to attend for a further swab tomorrow morning; you get the lateral flow result half an hour later, then the PCR result up to 72 hours afterwards. Then from next week I'll be swabbing myself every Thursday. Then one of the Shift Leaders called as I was sitting down to dinner to make sure I'd got the email. Our service managers are fit to be tied, because apparently "so many" people are testing positive. I'm beginning to understand how bowling pins must feel when they're standing there waiting in the alley!
I have been jabbed, I am being tested, I wash my hands, I wear my PPE and I follow procedure as far as is possible out in the community - as opposed to the fantasy Sim City the people who come up with it seem to inhabit. I can't speak for what anyone else is doing, but in any case there must be a sizeable element of blind luck to this, I think.
/ MAYO CLINIC
The COVID-19 vaccines currently being developed in the U.S. don't use the live virus that causes COVID-19.
Following this thread for the good information from everyone!
So............strange things DO happen!
And, here's a similar story I just read on the same subject as Geaton wrote about:
A San Diego, California ER nurse has tested positive for COVID-19, just eight days after receiving his first dose of the Pfizer COVID vaccine.
After taking the vaccine on December 18th, nurse Matthew W. felt fine. Six days later he came down with the chills, muscle aches and fatigue after working a shift in a COVID-19 unit.
Two days later and still under the weather, Matthew took a COVID-19 test that came back positive.
Dr. Christian Ramers, an infectious disease specialist involved in the vaccine rollout at the county level, told ABC 10, “It’s not unexpected at all. If you work through the numbers, this is exactly what we’d expect to happen if someone is exposed.”
Dr. Ramers notes Matthew could have had the virus before he took the vaccination, and says he knows of several other local cases where healthcare workers became infected after taking the vaccine.
“That first dose we think gives you somewhere around 50%, and you need that second dose to get up to 95%,” Dr. Ramers said.
Dr. Ramers also reminded the ABC 10 audience that even after receiving the vaccination, masks, handwashing, and other COVID protocols will still be necessary.
So, if we can still get the virus after being vaccinated and still have to adhere to social distancing, mask laws, etc., then what’s the point of the vaccine in the first place?
"We have had no new cases of COVID-19 at LMS since our last update. Our most recent case was a Gables resident who tested positive in the hospital on 1/21/21, but was someone who had previously tested positive. We worked closely with MDH Epidemiology, the hospital, and our physician contacts, and it was determined based upon further lab work that the positive result was likely not a “new” COVID-19 infection. Although this was a very unique situation, we do still need to count it as a positive case. Staff and residents have continued to test negative since that time."
So...this person is a "silent" carrier? Never recovered completely from the first bout? Not sure how to interpret this info.
I think that since so many lives were lost early on, there are not a whole lot of guidelines for the very elderly who survived the first onslaught of the infections.
I experienced symptoms on 1/16, tested on 1/20, still coughing but lighter symptoms every day.
Locked in since 3/5/2020. Not the best year of my life.