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I bet she has been this way all her life. I am not beyond a little threat, "Mom, if you don't do this now it will be a Nursing home or an AL later because I will not care for you."

Is Mom with u permanently? Or just a temporary thing? If permanently you need to set boundries. (set them even if temporary) would be "Mom your complaining has to stop. The only person who can help you is you. You need to talk to a Dr. about all your pain. If you don't want to, thats OK but I want to hear no more complaining. Nothing I can do for you. When you start, I will just leave the room. Rotten way to live. But if you are going to live here, I just cannot put up with ur negativity. If you can't change, you may need a place of your own." Don't argue with her. Just leave the room. You have stated how you feel from then on just walk away.
(I read ur profile so I see at this point living on her own may not be an option. But as I said, I am not beyond a little threat)

At 77 Mom is not old. When a member asked if she was enabling her Mom a response to her question was "No disabling". Meaning, do you do things for Mom that she can really do for herself? Maybe it will take her longer but it will get done. Your profile says that she can't stand for two long, but she can still cut potatoes sitting down. Bread chicken sitting down.

I get from your profile that Mom has some cognitive problems. This could be why she is so resistant. She may be in the early stage of a Dementia. Reasoning goes down the drain. Not sure if they feel pain more or like a child they dramatize it more. And I would not want her on an Oxy for too long.

With Moms problems, even without the knee, she may need pain management. If she hasn't had a good physical, then I would get her one when u can. Labs and a neurological exam too. Tell her a little white lie, Medicare requires it.
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againx100 Dec 2020
Thank you for your response. I am going to save your "speech" and use it when she is a little bit better. Maybe in 1 - 2 weeks. Or tomorrow if she really ticks me off again!

Mom is here for the long haul. Until I can no longer care for her AND maintain a normal life. I have new grandkids I watch a bit and I am NEVER giving that up!

Giving her things to do sitting down is a good idea. One issue with that is that her hands hurt and she is slow as molasses so depending on what I need done it may or may not be helpful. BUT if I plan ahead a bit I could get her to do some things early in the day that I won't need until later.

I am trying to push things back into her corner post op. I was handling her meds and now have put her back in front as it was before her operation. I'm answering a lot of questions about it so I hope she can "get it" and be more independent on that front.

Cognitive abilities are questionable. Good on some levels, bad on others. When she is in better shape after her knee recovery, I should get her in for a neuro exam to see what's really going on.

I was thinking of getting her in to see the pain management doctor. So many little issues and too much pain.

One further question - since her cognitive issues are in question, I'm wondering how hard I can/should push to get her to stop complaining and do more for herself.
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Your typed a great answer “I can not do more for her and her recovery than she is willing to do” Exactly! Of course you want to see her improve, but that’s on her. Stop discussing recovery and pains with her. And if you’re waiting on her, bringing her food or meds or whatever, stop and let her get it herself. That counts as therapy. When my dad was recovering from knee replacement he did the same cooperation with therapy in front of them, and little to none when they were gone. I did less and less for him, told him doing things was his therapy. No one’s pain is helped by majoring on it, most of us here are at the ages to deal with arthritis or something else’s hat causes pain, constantly bemoaning it is no help and only brings everyone down. So limit how much you listen to that. And totally tell the doctor and therapists what’s going on, they need the truth to know how to proceed. Above all, this is on mom and she has to want it. And sometimes wanting it is just too much any longer
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againx100 Dec 2020
Thank you. Your response is so helpful since I am feeling so alone and lost and like no one understands. I will definitely take some of your advice. I have already started disengaging and pushing more on her and trying to give her the tools to be more independent.
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againx100, I totally get what you're going through because I'm in the same exact situation. The negativity, the constant complaining, all of it. When my mother (who sounds exactly like yours), starts up I just walk away. When the conversation crosses over to her health ailments or she tries to start a debate on something she saw on a cable news network (cable news is on here baring on the highest volume the tv has every waking moment) I walk away and will not engage. I'm responsible for everything. All the chores, all the doctor's appointments, all communications she claims she can't handle (she's more than capable though) and everything in between. So I tell her that if she wants to complain about all her ailments, spread her negativity and gloom and doom around, or fight with someone over cable news then she can call my sister to accommodate her. She doesn't put this crap on my sister though. My sister by the way, does absolutely nothing. She does not help out in any way, shape or form. She will then get on me because she thinks I'm being harsh and mean to our mom. My response is hey we can trade lives. If you're game then great! If not then STFU.
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againx100 Dec 2020
Literally this 2nd kind and understanding response has brought me to tears. Thank you so much for sharing and understanding. You have no idea. how much it helps!!!
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