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Just a thought, but you need to get "excited" about yourself again, and I know it's hard. You used to make jewelry? Start it up again, you can do it while you are with mom. I have a friend who started a etsy site, and sells things she makes. While being a stay at home mom, Some income and some fun for her! She makes ornaments with sand and small shells, and they sell very well, and take her almost no time to make. And she makes bead jewelry,, Depending on when hubs gets home, can you walk in the evening? It's getting lighter out now? Good luck with this. I also find myself slipping into depression.. But I am lucky I have a friend or two who understand
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
I may be able to start walking again if my husband isn’t working late. I miss it and is a good stress buster, helps with overall health. I have high blood pressure. I don’t eat a lot because my appetite isn’t that great due to helping mom with going to the bathroom, especially after having to get bedside commode. Just hard adjusting to all of this.

Then I accepted and feel trapped. Just kind of weird. The range of emotions we go through.

Yes, I have sold jewelry too. I hope to get back to it one day.
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You are likely depressed. Your job is very hard. Emotionally it is a rollercoaster that only caretakers understand.

Prioritize alone time for yourself. You mentioned some things you used to love. Try them again. If you can’t afford a caretaker to step in (and give you a break), find someone in your area in a similar situation - take turns having time off while you give your parents some time together. They may enjoy this too. If you feel lackluster about your past favorite activities, brainstorm a list with new ideas that excite you. Make sure some type of exercise (even a long walk) is on the list. When you come back from your “breaks” you’ll be happy to see your Mom and she’ll appreciate you more.

Take care of yourself. Remember to put that oxygen on yourself first, so that you can take care of others. You are not alone. There are many if us, just like you, who understand just how you feel. .
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
Thanks, ACaringDaughter,

No one to swap with. Great idea if that is feasible.

I miss walking. Now I do an exercise bike. Not the same as being able to take a walk outside. I can walk on the weekend when husband is home but then all the neighbors are out and want to chat. Ends up not being exercise. It’s usually neighbors that are not my favorite people. The neighbors that everyone avoids.

Walking during the week is better for stress busting exercise because most of the neighbors are at work and I can take a brisk walk without interruption of chatty neighbors that I don’t care for.
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NHWM, she needs to be assessed, you don't want to have a place picked out and find out she is not eligible.

Force the issue of help, either at senior center or her forking over some money for in home help.

You are more worried about upsetting her than you are about your wellbeing. That is a bad place to be, it takes your hope.

You are an amazing daughter and you have gone above and beyond for her, it is time she compromises her hard azz stance.

Can your husband tell her that she needs to go to senior center, pay for an in home aid or she will be going to a facility because he is not going to watch you die trying to prop her stubborn azz up. She doesn't get to hold you hostage unless you agree. This is robbing you of so many things.

Consider yourself kicked in the butt!

Hugs, this will work out.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
Thanks again.

So who do I speak to about assessment? Is that done at the doctor’s office with her primary care doctor or could her neurologist that treats her Parkinson’s do it? Do you prefer a certain person do the assessment? Sorry if you told me before and I forgot.

My husband and she get along well. I have never asked him to speak to her. Don’t know if he would feel awkward.

I know he is just as tired as I am. He works hard. He also travels with his job. I used to be able to join him on business trips occasionally and that was fun.

I could go to a museum or shopping, whatever, then we’d meet up for dinner. We would usually stay a couple of extra days so he would not be working the entire time. We both miss our kids. We miss doing little things, wouldn’t have to be extravagant.
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NeedHelpWith Mom; YES, YES,YES...I am in the exact same place ...I know everyone thinks I should put my Aunt in a NH but its not that easy for us there are underlying issues .Anyhow as her dementia progresses I feel as if my life is just ...Blah Blah Blah.....Im not looking for sympathy.I only just want to let you know I have the same issues ..I really havent lost interest but ....I can not have any projects or hobbies anymore so its depressing to me that Im not able to do the little things that make me happy or take my mind off the sadness of Aunties dementia. and yes its sooooo boaring waiting for her to do what ever she does because everything she does is soooooo SLOW SLOW SLOW......and she at least does what sc he can thats a good thing it just takes soooo long so I must just kinda giggle to know we are all out here dealing with the same things ....prayers and hugs to you !! Cheer up we will get through this ! God wont give you more than you can handel ....What dont kill you will make you stronger ....
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
Thanks Lorraine,

You are very kind. Every situation is different. It can become complicated. I can’t speak to yours. Nor does anyone understand totally what I go through. We can empathize with each other. It’s hard.

But I don’t think it’s healthy for anyone to be bound like this. We do need breaks and socialization too.
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I had decided that when the time came around, I was going to visit every State. Build an RV that could sustain me full time and do it. Once I had decided on that, all my free time was consumed in learning and planning, For 4 years.

now...I have been living in my RV and traveling since early 2017. All that learning and planning paid off. Just wish I had spent more time learning about insulation!

look to your future and spend your time working toward that plan...even if it is only educating yourself.

Moving forward for my own future was enough to help me overcome boredom and even the stress of the day to day care....kept my dream alive
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
That is fabulous, Katie!

Yeah, in my youth, long ago I dated a guy that wanted to take me to the mountains. I grew up in New Orleans, only went to Florida every summer because my dad really missed Florida, his childhood home was in the Panama City beach area.

Went camping and backpacking through the mountains. So beautiful for a gal from New Orleans to see. New Orleans is flat! Haha.

So many pretty places to see. Have traveled before being tied down with mom.

My husband is very different than my old boyfriend. He’d never camp and backpack!

I like variety. I love the city, countryside, beach, mountains, all of it, staying in nature, fancy hotel, bed and breakfast, boutique hotel, etc.

Good for you! See the world!
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What you just described is not boredom, it's depression. You listed some of the classic symptoms.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
needtowashhair,

I think so too. In fact the therapist I had before said it was ‘situational depression’. Ironically, he and his wife were caregivers to his MIL so he completely understood my circumstances. Think it can go along with the territory depending on our particular experience in caregiving.

Codependency can also become an issue.
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No your not alone feeling this way!

As humans we get stuck in routines and as humans, we are very social creaters. I think you are not just bored but lonely as well. You should talk to a therapist to help you come up with a plan. Also help you with the depression. Depression can be a slippery slope, and I don't want you to go down that ranbit hole...it is easier to go down then it is to get out of it...just speaking from experience!

Perhaps you can find someone to sit with mom for a few hours a week, kind of like a babysitter with some skills in care giving.

You also have to try to make yourself do something or nothing will change. Easier said than done!

And I totally get the frustration about being interrupted when your in the middle of doing something that needs all of your attention. I like to write and I will be in the middle of writing and my mother will decide it is time to play 20 questions game and there goes my focus out the window:( ugh!

You could also try playing a strategy game, this will help your brain have something to do besides thinking about your problems and your circumstances. It gives you away to check out for short periods of time.

You could also try to come up with new things for dinner or deserts. Push your cooking or baking skills. Some people have stubble on skills they never knew they had just by trying new things!

You have to take care of yourself because I am afraid when all is said and done, and find yourself without having to take care of your mom...What will be left of you?

I hope this helps! You will be in my prayers.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
Shell,

Exactly, I will have a design in my head and she starts yakking and I lose focus.

Yes, I do get concerned about sinking into depression.

Hey, I live in New Orleans. I can cook! Hahaha. We are known for our food. music, people, uniqueness (not just anywhere USA) and unfortunately now, for horrible crimes. Certainly not the city I grew up in. Still, it’s a great city with interesting history and culture.
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I'm not normally the first to say run don't walk to your therapist, but I don't like the sound of this.

It's not so much the boredom, or the frustrations of constant interruption, or even the feeling that you want to climb the walls. It's the loss of interest even in the things you *do* like. That's not good. That can snowball.

Do you know someone who can give you a qualified professional opinion on this point? I think you might be working with a therapist, are you? - sorry if I've got that completely wrong.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
CM.

I have seen a therapist before. This may sound strange to you and others but there were times that therapy became very hard. Not because of the therapist. He was wonderful. Also, I am aware that therapy is hard work and I have worked hard all of my life. I get that anything worth having is worth fighting for.

It’s difficult to put my feelings into words at times. I’ll try. I wanted and did make a genuine effort in therapy, otherwise it’s a waste of time, right? But this may sound strange but after awhile I would question how it was helping me talk about what I needed to get away from. Sometimes it depressed me further.

I felt like after a few months I needed a break from the therapy even though the therapist told me my outlook had improved.

I daydream about being with people my age. Or even younger people living a full life. Sounds mean but I get tired of only hearing ‘old people’ stuff. I feel like a 93 year old! I want to talk to younger people and hear different things.

I am going to get to see my nephew at the end of the month. I can’t wait. He, his wife and children will be visiting from AZ. We will have a barbecue. Keeping it relatively simple so we can relax and visit. Plus the kids are picky eaters! Three adorable kids, 9, 4 and 2.

My mom will get to see her great grandchildren. They do send photos but it isn’t the same as seeing them. I understand they can’t travel much. Cost a lot for a family to fly these days.

I was very close to my nephew when he was a kid. his brother too (my godchild).

It will wonderful to see him. After he went into the army we didn’t get to see him much. He was in the Middle East five times! I prayed for him everyday. I sent care packages for him and his buddies. He said that’s how they did it. Whoever sent packages sent for a group so they could share, so it was easier for me to send things from Sam’s where I could buy in bulk.

I’m trying to keep my spirits up but I sometimes feel like life is passing me by and before I know it I will be dead! Sorry, don’t want to depress you or others. Thanks for listening to me with my same old boring stuff about my life with mom. I do love her. I may have stress and I have had heartbreak in my life but I have never forgotten the good memories that I have. The heartbreak has only made me appreciate the good times more. I cherish those memories.
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Do you think that your mother may be depressed or suffering some cognitive decline? Sometimes, that can cause someone to avoid going out. My LO stopped wanting to go out for shopping, family celebrations, etc. She came up with excuses, but, later I figured out that she was confused, memory poor, embarrassed and she felt safer just staying at home. Maybe, a little detective work could reveal if that is the case or not. But, regardless, you need your own life and good times. I might make a list of options. Then, explore how to implement each one. Like, getting her to go out, so you can get some free time or having outside help come in. Or placement for her, if that's what she needs. You might feel better after you list your options and conclude that you are not stuck. There are ways to find happier times again.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
Sunny,

I honestly don’t know if mom is declining in that way. She’s fearful at times. My brain hurts trying to figure it all out! Haha

I know you are giving me good advice. I do. I will get there. I feel like a stalled car right now. Strange.
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Internet. A lot to do there.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
Shad,

True, but that gets boring too. I want human interaction. Know what I mean? I used to have an active life, plus down time. No down time caring for a 93 year old.
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It's difficult when caring for someone to know how much time you have to spend on your own interests, right? You might be interrupted just as you get into the tasks. If you can, find a time that you will for sure be left alone and get out your jewelry and crafts and if it is just sitting looking at it for a while, that's a start. The soul needs the concentration on something creative, the development of skills and imagination. Sinking into boredom is not healthy for the mind or body. Please don't let this continue.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
Thanks Artist,

I believe that about the soul as well. My mom, aunt and grandmother were all very creative. I miss that. Many years ago, I managed a store. I worked hard at that job and this may sound crazy but it didn’t feel like work. I loved it! I taught classes. Made all the window displays. Would sell them and have to make more. It was fun.

Never thought about just looking at my stuff. Yeah, could bring back some inspiration, couldn’t it?
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NHWM, you just need to tell her, mom either you go to senior center, insert # of days weekly, or you go to a Nursing home, period.

You can't let her continue to be the only one that matters.

She doesn't need to agree, she just needs to do.

Buck up and put your foot down. If she says no, get your local area on aging in to do an assessment to know what kind of facility. She will see you are serious and at that point it is all on her what her future address is.

Its like dealing with a kid, if you say I'm not telling you again, you better not tell them again, implement the consequence that they were told would happen, tears, screaming, yelling and all. Yep, sucks but you were told this would happen.

You let her treat you like a little girl and that is a hard factor to change, but if you die what will really happen to her? You are a grown woman who has kindly allowed your mom to live in your house free of charge for 14 years, time to be the mistress of your home.

Sorry if I sound harsh but enough already, she isn't the only one that matters, regardless of what she thinks. A loving mother would want her daughter to have a life and some happiness.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
isthisreallyreal,

I won’t dispute any of what you are saying. It’s like I am stuck. I need a good kick in the rear. Thanks.

I go through the what if’s. I really think that negativity rubs off even if deep down it isn’t who we really are. Her negativity has not been good for me. Well, certainly not to be around on a full time basis. I fully understand her frustration as well. 93 and Parkinson’s is tough.

I am more than compassionate with her. More than I am with myself and there has to be balance. I get that.

I guess if you had to pin me down it isn’t about separation from her. I would visit her. It’s about finances. Are these prices at ALF set in stone? Are they negotiatable? The nursing homes in my area are not good. Don’t understand what palliative care is really all about. Her primary care doctor said she is not ready for hospice. It’s confusing. I’m trying. I know I am guilty of moving slower than I should but it’s big decisions. I appreciate everyone’s help and I am truly trying to process it all.
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I agree about talking to your doctor to see if you have depression. That can cause people to lose interest in hobbies. You can explore medication. But, I'd also consider that being a hands on, full time caregiver is really a very daunting job. Not many jobs require 24/7 time schedule and little to no pay. Plus, there's the stress. I'd question if the stress has caused you lose interest in hobbies, because, your system can only take so much. Can you get respite care for your mom so you can take a vacation? Go visit friends or family for a few weeks? Sometimes, we need a change of scenery and environment . Is there somewhere that your mom can go during the day, like an adult day center, so you can just relax, have privacy or go do something out of the norm?

I hope you find some answers that make you feel better and invigorate your interests again.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
Sunny,

Nope, can’t get away and mom absolutely will not go anywhere but to the doctor. She won’t even do the hair salon anymore. I had to find a stylist to come to the house.

I know she gets exhausted and I try like hell to be understanding but I find myself resentful at times not ever having a change of scenery as you say or others to talk to. I get so tired of only talking about ‘senior citizen’ stuff. Feel like my brain is turning to mush. No stimulation. Know what I mean?

Sometimes I stare out the window and especially if it’s a pretty day, I get a little down because I am stuck here. 😞
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I get bored too, and unable to fill what free time I do have effectively. I think forcing yourself to do things when you have a chance might be the only way. For example, as soon as my sibling is back from vacay, I am just going on a hike at my favorite spot, weather and taxes be damned. One thing will build on another thing.

Do you have any time for your jewelry making, for example? If so, could you commit to sit down and work on it for say 15 minutes and see how you feel on the other end?
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
SnoopyLove,

I love your name! I still watch Charlie Brown at Christmas and Snoopy is so cool!

Some days I do have time to do it. I get upset because I can’t get to the store to buy certain clasps or other parts that I may need. But I do have supplies here. I have ordered online but I enjoy going to the bead shops or bead shows to see things in person more.

I also get upset when creating a design and mom will interrupt with something that is not important at all. Or the biggie, sit and watch me when she usually just sits in her room otherwise. It’s like, “What are you making?” I tell her. Sometimes I don’t mind her watching but not always. She may be bored too! Breaks my heart that she can no longer work on projects because of Parkinson’s tremors, eyesight failing and simply old age.

Even ask her if she would like me to make her a bracelet and so on. But I feel as if I want it to be my time to relax and be creative.

I used to belong to a group that met once a month. It was a nice group of ladies and we did different projects together. We had lunch catered. We had our meetings at the Chamber of Commerce building in a huge conference room on Saturday afternoons. I loved it! The library would show our finished pieces on certain selected days. The chamber would sell our items in their gift shop. We donated items to raise money for certain charities. Nice being part of a community. I miss that.

We would participate in shows and certain fundraisers. But I can’t do any of that anymore.

My mom was very active in the craft fair scene. She is extremely talented. So I know she misses it. But when she did the shows she was living at her house with no one to interfere with making her items. She sold lots!

She doesn’t think anything of interrupting me when I am working on a project and it drives me nuts!

Ahhhh, hiking. I used to love to take walks. And hiking on pretty trails. But I can’t get away on a trip to hike on a trail, not even a day trip to a state park to hike the trail there.

Now I do my exercise bike. Again, gets boring!
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Needhelp, losing interest in things that used to give you joy is indeed a sign of depression. Do please discuss this with your doctor, sooner rather than later. As in, immediately! And as you've read here many, many times, there is no value in losing yourself in the care of another, no matter how good your intentions, and regardless of what you've promised or how deep the guilt. You simply cannot take care of another person if you die trying. Take care of yourself first; only then will you have the strength and the reserves to take care of your LO. Wishing you all the best, and many hugs to you.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2019
Desert,

I talk to all of you but sometimes it’s hard talking about it. I have done therapy before when I could leave mom for a bit. Now I can’t get away and the guilt would eat me alive. It’s awful. I know I have value and need to take care of myself but kind of give up at times. I do need to try and force myself to make changes.

Plus, in therapy they guide you to speak about things that are really difficult for me and I end up more depressed. Hard to explain.

I want time away for either solitude or with friends for fun things! Not time away to think about or discuss what I am trying not to focus on. Do you understand?
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I'm a full time caregiver as well and find myself getting bored at times. I found gardening, reading, baking and having pets help for me. Now that it's spring, getting outdoors even just to sit on the porch is nice.
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shad250 Mar 2019
Especially since it is Thunderstorm season
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Can you get help so you can take a break? Can she be put into a nursing home, assisted living? Find an elder lawyer and ask questions. Get POA.
You need to take care of yourself.
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shad250 Mar 2019
She would probably be bored in NH or AL
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