Has anyone cut all contact with aging parents? My 93 year old mom has diagnosed borderline personality disorder & my father has always catered to her crazy behavior. I’ve been the scapegoat kid & my 62 year old brother the golden child. In life, it’s been the opposite. Have done better educationally & financially.
Have been with my parents 2 days a week to help with shopping & dr’s visits. It was 4 days a week for 3 years due to various serious health issues. They are better for now & can manage fairly well. I also cut back because my mom was impossible to be with. Her verbal abuse is horrible.
My home is 40 miles away & my brother 10 miles. He makes every excuse not to help. He has the summer off as a teacher. My mom is fine with his excuses. He stops by for Sunday dinner 2 hrs a week. Mom cooks & he does not even wash his own dishes.
My dad is part owner of some valuable land along with the family of his late brother (two male cousins). I was promised 25% of it all my life once my dad passes.
I am here with my parents now. Last night I found out my brother and cousins have talked my father & mother into cutting me out. My crime? Not being with them full-time, cutting back to 2 days a week & not helping my mom cook Sunday dinner to serve my brother.
Am outraged. I want nothing to do with them anymore. Tired of the double-standard, tired of my brother’s corrosive envy, tired of my mother’s nasty abuse, & tired of my dad’s implicit acceptance of me being crazy mom’s whipping post.
Has anyone simply left never to return? I plan on leaving tomorrow & telling my mom never to call me again.
I feel like a stupid chump for being used & fooled.
When my mom died in 2003 my dad sold the house for 15xs what he paid for it. He moved into a small apartment that he could easily afford with social security. He had mid 6 figures in the bank. For nearly 10 years he was pretty much self sufficient. Then he had a medical issue and started to decline. Seemed like for two years I was on call 24/7...while raising two kids and working a full time job, I was run ragged. All the time he kept holding my 'inheritance' over my head every time I was called out for a midnight trip to the ER. Then he decided he wanted to go into Assisted Living (I think he thought it would be the same as a trip to the ER...everyone fussing over him). I was starting to set boundaries and he wanted more attention. I knew as soon as he went into AL any idea of an inheritance was out the window. He has been there nearly 4 years. The money is quickly running out. He has no real life, he just exists. It was for the best as I could not keep up with the level of care/attention he needed/demanded/wanted.
As soon as they told me their plans, I drove over and talked with them and reminded them that family history was repeating itself, as my mother’s brothers got the farm instead of the sisters who cared for my grandmother.
I am hoping that you can gather up your courage and speak with your parents and remind them who is caring for them (you) and who is not caring for them (brother). They must come to terms with that truth and change the plan to cut you out of the will. If they do not, you can do as others here have suggested, to ask your brother to step in for the summer, then have him continue in the fall, winter, spring, etc.
There seems to be quite a few of us who have been in a family dynamic like yours and mine. This life can be very unfair, I will pray that you will have a calm heart and know that we are rooting for you. Please keep us updated. Hugs and love to you. ❤️
I have experienced this just in a different configurations.
i am the daughter with my brother being the “golden child”
To make a similar story short ... I HAD to get out of this for my own mental health!
i was their supply to abuse ... after 66 years the light bulb went off and I saw the light . I wanted my life back .. the joy peace and love of my own family that loves me unconditionally!
This has been hard no question but on the other side I DID find my old self .
i have found my peace I found my joy again and my family got me back !
No question I have and would do anything for family except give myself up! Whatever time we have left on earth we need to be true to ourselves .
Be strong and true to yourself that’s all
anyone of us have ♥️
A simple half hour call for a free consult will allay a lot of your anguish about your sexist brother, to say the least. I do not know who said what to whom, was it your mother? Can you find out who her lawyer is, and if you can get a copy of the will as soon as possible but from your parent (the more willing one) otherwise, be careful as your brother may have appointed him as Executor, and then he will try to rip you off, if he can get away with it. (a guess only).
Is there any money in the bank from your folks for extra help or if you live in Canada, any government funded personal care workers that can lend a hand? Would your mother agree to hiring extra help and can you get her on a good day to let her know what is wrong with the idea of you being there full time and do not during this conversation mention your brother as her ears will perk and she will shut you down.
Finally, and more strategic is also to do the following, find a mediator for elder care, and ask them to set up a meeting for you and your brother about sharing duties. That will fix his little red wagon, because if he refuses, you can then definitely prove to your parents' estate lawyer that he is abusing you due to your gender stereotypical role...and if he then tries to have the will changed to remove you, (due to his influence on your folks)...well, then you will have a leg to stand on...
Put him in his place....
I gave up and then I went back for a full year working 3 to 4 days for 4 hours each day for a full year till my mother died. I was there at her last breath. I am at peace ...and so is she.
In a dysfunctional family, justice and fairness is our most dep and strongest need...is it fair that you get ousted from the will? No matter if it were even a dollar? No.
I am not materialistic, I am principled. I would caution that like my siblings, they took my mother to the lawyer to remove the original executor (a non sibling) and put herself as an executor, now they are going to sit on the estate as long as they can legally and then disburse. They want to see if I die of covid is my guess...they did a lot of research to see how they can take more than their share, and as I was on a sick leave from work, they thought I was on social assistance and cheshire cat smiled that I would only be privy to $100K from the house.
You might need to get a cease and desist letter against your brother if he is defaming your charectar as a being a "bad daughter"....I bet he is a math teacher...LOL.
I am almost done wrapping up my mom‘s estate. Similar story. I live 800 miles away from my mom my brother lived 15 minutes away. He did nothing to help her for the last five years before she died. The trust leaves 94% of all the proceeds to him. The point is it might not be right it might not be fair, but somehow it is right and it is fair. My brother has got no skill set he’s got no job. He’s in great shape goes to yoga and surfs every day but he is a bum. I assume he will probably go through it in about two years. I will be fine and I will have a pension and my own house. Yes I resent my brother for not helping. But I know that I did the right thing and I helped my mom. You have to be patient.
If you do nothing about the land and dad passes at home without any state Medicaid expense, you and your brother would end up with 25% each anyway because that is the split of dad's 50% ownership without a will. If dad has a will that leaves everything to both of his kids equally, you still get the same 25% each. What if dad dies before mom?? Does his will leave everything to her? In that case, mom would need a new will to distribute her estate.
For the most part, the sons usually get a bye from mom because mom would never think of asking a son to do some of the things for her that she would ask a daughter to do. That's just how it is. Maybe your conversation needs to be with brother.
If he works during school year, there's just not much he can do during the week, but he can certainly participate on weekends to give you a break. During the summer, you could flip the responsibility so that you cover weekends. Just begin with the fact that your parents have more than one child and you have to work out a better plan. Tell him you are exhausted and dealing with mom is very hard for you - ASK for his help. If nothing else, ask him to take care of errands and dr appts during the summer months. Worst case scenario, he says no.
I have asked my brother numerous times to help out over the last 3 years - in person, in emails & a few snail mail letters. He says next time for an in-person meeting. Is too busy to read my emails and letters let alone respond to them when I’ve asked about my correspondence. I know you mean well. I can’t get blood from a passive aggressive stone.
What’s ironic is that he’s a religious studies teacher at a parochial high school and has his master’s in Counseling Psychology.
Recent extensive psychological evaluations and medical testing have shown my mother to be completely healthy. She is a vibrant, athletic, active 78 year old woman who rides her bicycle to the gym. However, she claims to have multiple medical problems, has had unnecessary surgeries, and spent the last five years feigning Alzheimer’s. Does she really have some other kind of dementia? It’s hard to know for sure. Does she have a fictitious disorder (Munchausen)? She fits the profile, but sadly those personalities don’t want to be diagnosed. Does she manipulate consciously? I don’t know how much is conscious— very little, I’m afraid.
But despite not having all the answers, despite knowing she is utterly miserable and bereft, I walked away. She’s mean. She’s self-absorbed. She’s emotionally and verbally violent. She makes scenes if I don’t do what she wants.
When I refused to let her move in with me she threw a fit in public. This could be attributed to dementia, but she did it when I was six, and it’s consistent with her personality, so it’s not new behavior. So I walked away.
I walked away permanently, gave up my POA, had my name removed from her bank info.
I walked away, despite the fact that others believe I’m selfish, I walked away. BTW, I’m a therapist, and I walked away.
My point is these things are messy, and can be argued from many perspectives, which is exhausting. You are not a bad person. You are entitled to your own life. You shouldn’t put yourself down at all.
It takes tremendous courage to walk away, and the emotions might be messy. Not allowing yourself to be subjected to the unhealthy dynamic is a vote for your own courageous spirit. Besides, you can’t really help other people by allowing them to gang up on you.
My advice is to follow your gut, put “free” signs around their necks and wheel them all out to the curb.
Sending you virtual hugs and support, whatever you decide.
How?
The first thing I'd do is make sure what you heard is true. Then I'd fact-check the reasons. And then I would tell them what I thought of (you'll excuse me, but this is what it sounds like to me) self-perpetuating, antediluvian, misogynistic injustice.
You need to do this fact-checking with the person who will be making the bequest, by the way, which is to say your father and no one else. What's he got to say about it? How does he square it with what he has always told you until now?
Anyway. Let's assume it's as near true as makes no difference; which means that regardless of anyone's reasoning or anyone's influence, you're nobody's heiress.
What you do then is take a break. These people have deeply hurt your feelings - again - and you need time to recover from it.
What you do after that is decide for yourself what you are and are not prepared to give to and do for your very elderly parents. Because in the end, how you (anyone) treat people (anyone else) is about what you are like, and not what they are like; and you must not allow their behaviour towards you to influence your own personal deeply held standards of what is decent.
I find it troubling that your brother is a teacher. What does he teach, and to whom?
You are not a stupid chump. You have not been fooled. To explain: the land never was the reason you have persisted in treating your parents as well as you could in the circumstances. You weren't turning up there and being their daughter because of any promises - on the contrary! You did it because it felt right to you. What's wrong is this latest (and it's a biggy, I agree) injury; but it's nothing to do with your being taken for a ride, everything to do with your being disadvantaged and excluded AGAIN.
If it is true, and irreversible, I'd be spitting feathers too; but take time to think how you want things to pan out overall. Don't just react.
If I could go back in time, I would tell myself to find a counselor to help me navigate through a really tough elder/family time in my life. If you are open to therapy, now is the time. This family dynamic has been in place your whole life. Seek assistance in breaking the pattern.
If you walk away without explanation, others will create a narrative. And it will most likely paint you in a bad light. If you choose to dis-engage and walk away, mail your parents a card telling them that you are doing this because their words and actions have been hurtful to you. Specify if you intend to see them for birthdays or holidays or not.
your mental health is not worth it.
TRUST ME.
money isn’t worth it.
get a therapist if you need one.
return to the land where you are in charge of your happiness and leave scheming mean people behind . Relationships are 2-way streets no matter who’s involved .
wishing you only the best !
As for the "inheritance", as others noted that may end up being little or nothing, if they need a lot of assistance. You indicated that you really did not need it, though it does hurt to have one's parents cut you out just to be spiteful (or because they listen to bro's crap.)
Although it would be nice if there are funds left after our mom passes, her assets are hers and are to be used for her care. I can manage without, if her care ends up depleting it all. No one (excluding those super rich) are guaranteed inheritance, so it shouldn't be a goal for a sensible person. In your case, I would definitely cut and run. Any possible financial gain probably isn't worth the stress and negativity you have to put up with!
I agree with those who say (including you) not to be snotty or vindictive and burn the bridges behind you. Just make a list of what care you provide, give it to bro and with NO excuses just say you need to have a break. You don't even have to acknowledge that the break will be permanent (it may not be - there could be reason to help out later.) Just hand him the list of what needs to be done and go. The list is just to satisfy you, that you made the one final sacrifice to ensure their care!
If you are self-sufficient, no amount of money or other inheritance would be enough for me to take that kind of crap from anyone. Getting it from all sides? Done. Like you, I took on what I could (mostly managing things for mom and finding a nice safe place for her) just because. We didn't have a lovey-dovey relationship, but neither was she too bad, I just knew I couldn't live with her and could not physically care for her, but did what I could. Bros, not so much. Limited and often begrudging help. I am DONE with OB due to his abusive nature (dates back to childhood, never went away! It has been over 2 years since we had any contact.) Once mom is gone, I'll likely be done with YB as well. Too self-absorbed. I can find better people to be friends and pseudo-family!
You can pick your seat, you can pick your nose, but unfortunately you can't pick your family (at least not the birth family, but you can pick those you DO want to be like family!! GO for it!)
I can only say that the feelings and attachment we feel for our parents is often misplaced and the time does come when you have to leave it all behind. Do not ruin your own life over your mother who clearly does not appreciate whatever you do for her. People might say how ungrateful I am and that we owe our parents everything - but really - do we at the cost of losing ourselves???
You set your boundaries and stick to them. Believe me I know. It’s amazing what happens when you respect yourself when setting boundaries.
A few years back I was run ragged looking after a declining mother. I posted updates for my siblings. One sibling was mia but one day responded to a post with two pages of criticism. I had a choice to walk away I was so angry and hurt. My wise hubby told me not to respond to that email.
From then on I read that book and set boundaries and my mental state is fine now. I don’t care about any inheritance. But my parents and I are at the point now where they gift me funds for assisting them. It’s less than what they would have to pay a carer but enough not to cause resentment. All my siblings know about this arrangement and they also know that if I were to walk away they are up the creek. Now they can carry on with their lives without disruptions but that would be halted if I walked away. And that sibling who was so nasty years ago has even thanked me for the work I do. It’s truly amazing what can happen when boundaries are set. I thank that author who penned that book!!
Personally, I did cut and run. I moved in with my mother temporarily after a divorce. She was 84 @ the time and doing o.k., but was on the verge of going into an irreversible decline, physically and cognitively. So I became her fulltime caregiver (with ALL that implies). I have two sisters, who have always had issues with me (jealously, mostly), and just plain never liked me. They were mean, judgmental, and attacked me verbally at any chance for not being a perfect human being. Otherwise, they were the classic sibs who 'lived too far away' and was 'too busy with work' to assist in any way. After 5 years, I have 30 days notice, packed my car and drove away for them to figure it all out. I'd been counseled by my therapist and two good friends to leave for a few years. Absolutely one of the HARDEST thing I ever did in 65 years. But it was forced upon me to choose which poison to drink. Now, 2 years later, I can see that it was the RIGHT choice for me. My sense of self respect, self confidence, and self esteem is returning.
GOOD LUCK! I promise, I'll pray for you.
i am with you sister ! We have one chance to find our JOY, OUR PEACE OURSELVES and not a clue how long we have to figure things out .
Thank U♥️
Ultimately, there’s got to be a way for you to forgive all of them. Otherwise, you’re hurting yourself hoping to make them feel badly and they probably just don’t. Know what I mean?
Tough situation. Be strong & Good luck.
Your post made me cry. I just want to hug you. Your dilemma is so deep one with no easy answer. The way you’ve been treated is terrible. I have a sister just like your bother, I’ve blocked her on my phone. You deserve your inheritance and your brother is guilty of coercion, a type of elder abuse. If finances allow you may want to retain an estate Atty. Take copious notes of all conversations and observances and do sit down with both parents to “have a conversation with them” as opposed to we need to talk. Ask them if there is a problem that you should know about. If they fein innocence tell them think it’s time your brother took care of them because you feel unappreciated, used, abused and unloved. Don’t be afraid of using the same unsavory verbiage that they do, it’s what the know.
Be very aware of how this will make you feel. Guilt? Sadness? Anger (at bro)? It isn’t an easy decision for you. I hope you have someone(wife, gf) to support you. {{{{Mason}}}}
love and light
Sabrina
But you CAN change the game now or at any time. My gut reaction is to say go low contact - in order to preserve your own sanity against their scheming ways. Send a card for birthdays & special holidays. Then challenge the will after they are gone (ha!).
Keep in contact with any respectful, kind relatives. The 'black sheep' term is probably not P.C. (sorry) but I have read a few posters that embraced being one - they stopped caring what others thought about them. It set them free. I don't know if this idea would work for you?
Keep dialling the contact lower & lower until you reach acceptable. If that level is zero. Zero it is. 🙏 Peace to you.
This is a good idea. I just called my dad to wish him a Happy Father’s Day. I couldn’t bring myself to buy a card this time. I was feeling a lot better until the call.
I did nothing wrong ever to be the whipping post of my family. It has hurt to be seen this way my entire life.
Am guessing I will be slandered and the subject of gossip by my whole family. Will ignore those bad feelings. Who can talk about one person (me) on and on. That stuff, if exists to any degree, fades.
I’ll see what the immediate future brings.