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My FIL moved in with us nearly two years ago. I was reluctant to say yes but it’s the only parent my precious wife has left so I agreed. He's very overweight, depressed (I think), poor, entitled (he thinks people should do everything for him), self-centered, can't seem to tell the full truth even on basic questions (it’s so strange), and his best quality is one of his worst, he's kind (until he has some ignorant opinion on varying subjects) but he won’t SHUT UP. He will ramble on and on and on even if no one is listening.


We had just bought a new first time house and a few months later we moved him in. It was all fine in the beginning, we were working on the house and staying busy so his annoyances were only slightly annoying in the beginning. As time continued and things settled down I started to notice more and more what a disrespectful, worthless (I know, Harsh) slob and pest he is. He would camp out in our living room just talking and talking and talking about nothing and giving his ignorant opinions, and trying to get my wife to cater to him (he knew from the start I wouldn't cater to him). Wouldn't shower, never helped with dishes, awful diet, never took out the trash, would be blaring the TV and music constantly, never did any physical activity. Just a fat blob taking up space. All the while he's just blabbering on about how's he going to get in shape and start walking and eating better, blah blah. I take my word very seriously, so I expected him to actually follow through on some of these ambitions. NOPE.


So probably about 9 months in I told my wife I've had enough, while I'm home he's to stay in his room Monday - Thursday, I can hardly stand to look at him anymore. Oh and I forgot to mention my wife has been pregnant for about 5 of these months already. Anyways, he obeys for a while and makes more and more promises how he's going to do better, blah blah and my wife always believes him. It’s the craziest thing, she will scold him and he will just deflect and tell her how much he loves her.


There's a lot more occurrences and instances than I have space for in this forum but needless to say my wife was scolding him one day trying to get him to clean up his room, which is absolutely disgusting, and is connected to our living room so if the door is open you can smell the odor. And he says something along the lines of "What happened to my beautiful, sweet, compassionate, loving daughter. This is not the woman I raised". I almost LOST IT ON HIM. But I didn't, and told my wife to relay to him that we are not on a speaking basis, I'm done with this a** hole. And when I'm done I'm done. Fast forward about a month later, he keeps trying to have conversations with me and coming out of his room when outside of our designated times, so I absolutely come unglued on him one day. A lot of profanity and I tell him Monday - Saturday when I’m home, you stay in your room and you and me are done. The only thing I want to hear come out of your mouth is "how was your day". Well as you probably know he keeps disrespecting my rules and her rules so every now and again I will snap on him. We tried to get him to move out but it was going to be too expensive with the baby.


Now to the point. I hold true to my word so basically I just don't interact with the guy, almost ever. If he tries to start a conversation I basically ignore him. I could see where this would be hurtful, but that is the point, no one else is holding him accountable, so this is my form of punishment and coping. I loathe this person. My wife will tell him how disrespectful he is to his face, but whenever I address him she sometimes takes up for him even if it’s contradictory to what she said to his face. This has caused some huge fights and its really starting to take a toll on both of us. I just want to be left alone and for him to follow the rules, but she thinks the rules are unfair. I think they are perfectly fair. Any advice on how to better handle the situation?

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You’re fooling yourself if any part of you believes this mess and tension doesn’t overflow into your marriage and home life. Your wife is constantly being caught between trying to please you and appease dad, not to mention care for a baby. That baby will grow into a resentful child in no time, seeing the friction, hearing the tirades, smelling the poor hygiene. No one is at peace in this home, including the dad who surely on some level realizes he isn’t wanted there. Finances are not an excuse, neither is being the surviving spouse, he needs his own place and the home needs to be reclaimed and made peaceful. Please act in the best interests of all before you all hate each other
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Anxietynacy Sep 6, 2024
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You never should have said yes. You can't expect a grown man to "stay in his room." Bottom line is he needs to move out. Marriage and family are hard enough and you deserve a chance to have a home and a relationship with your wife and child without him being involved. Sit down with your wife and have a heart to heart about why this isn't working for all involved and tell her you are 100% committed to helping her find the right living situation for her dad. I don't know how old he is or why he needed to move into your home in the first place, but senior apartments? Assisted living? Surely there is some place he can go and live however he wants to live. Your wife wants this too, she just feels guilty kicking her dad out. Help her help him find a new place.
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I would seek marriage counseling at once. I am very worried for the future of a new life brought into this unhappy situation. This is a marital problem more than a caregiving problem. Both you and wife have decision to make for your future. You may not be able to stay together if you cannot come to a good conclusion through counseling, but it is crucial for your little one's well being that you co parent together well. This would be a dreadful environment for a new little baby. I worry for you all.
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tcjaynes Sep 6, 2024
Appreciate the honest opinion. The baby is 8 months old now and she lives in a very loving environment and is very well taken care of. I understand your concern about my anger, you're probably right, but that does not flow over into my child or the rest of my life. It's really only geared towards him but none-the-less you're probably right. I need to shift my perspective so that there's no tension in myself or within the home
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I'm surprised your wife still wants her father living in your home with you loathing him as you do, and imposing dreadful rules on him he must obey, not speaking to him, cursing and carrying on, etc. How is ANYONE in your household happy?

Sit down with your wife and calmly tell her this living situation is not working out anymore with her father. That it's very important to raise your child in a peaceful environment where she won't grow up like I did, with anxiety and stomach issues due to the ongoing histrionics in my home. You and your wife OWE this to your child, while you owe her dad nothing.

Help him find a room to rent elsewhere, where he can do as he pleases but be treated in a decent fashion. My BIL rented a motel room with a tiny kitchenette and was quite happy smoking and doing his own thing in there, not pestering anyone in the family who'd had enough of him.

Good luck.
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Tcjayness Sep 6, 2024
Man I’ve done this many many times. And I’ve told my FIL he needs to move out and he does nothing. And the wife always has too much empathy for him at the end of the day. He’s got it too good. He’s also a social butterfly and craves human interaction more than anyone I’ve ever met. I think as long as people are around he doesn’t even care what the tension is like. It’s like prisoners would rather be on the yard with murders and rapists than live in consolatory confinement where they are safe. He never continues to surprise me with how he’s going to screw things up next
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Everything you've described about your FIL is true about my father. I am single and I live in a big house by myself. My father has asked me if he could move in with me, but I said no and I will stand by that, because of the way he treats me. Does your FIL have social security or a pension that can fund an alternate living arrangement? My dad lives in a seniors apartment building where his rent is based on a percentage of his income. I still check on him constantly, call him everyday, take him to his doctor's appointments, take him shopping, etc, but because we don't live together, it's manageable. I'm just now speaking with his healthcare team to get him an aide to assist with bathing and keeping his apartment clean. Would that type of arrangement be helpful to you both? Also, have a talk with his doctors about treating his depression. And maybe if he is in a senior community, he'll have more people his own age that he can deal with. In my dad's building, they do a lot of social activities so that residents get to know each other and are not completely alone. It might logically seem like it would be easier to have him living with you then in another location, but from my experience this is the best way to go. If my father lived with me, I honestly might push him down some steps!
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fluffy1966 Sep 13, 2024
TC, "Rip820 has hit the nail on the head!
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Whew there’s a lot of fury here over my fury and disrespect for my FIL. Understood and thanks for the perspective. It’s been an eye opener to say the least. I came here looking for people to side with me which largely hasn’t happened, that’s a good thing for me. Thank you
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PeggySue2020 Sep 6, 2024
I can completely see your side of the situation but as a male you’re opening yourself to complications about potentially abusing fil.
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Throw him out. So what if he pays you $600 a month and buys some groceries. It's not worth it. Even with a baby, $600 a month isn't going to make or break you.

If your FIL is so poor as you say, he would qualify for subsidized housing. If he's as gross as you describe him, he won't mind living somewhere nasty.

Now, your wife is the one disrespecting you. If she takes up for him in front of you and you need to put her in her place with that crap yesterday. I've had two husbands and I will tell you something. If either one of them ever contradicted me or took someone else's side on something in front me, that would be it. I would never do that myself either. If one spouse has something to say to the other or a bone to pick, that gets done in private.

Your FIL is disrepsecting you, his daughter, and your home. He doesn't clean up his room?

You clean it. Pack his nasty stuff up in garbage bags and throw it on the curb. You've got a baby coming. You can't have a gross and unsanitary home.

You may actually have to legally evict him. If you don't want him there and he refuses to leave, he will have to be forced to. It's not your fault he's a disgusting slob who's depressed. He's depressed because he's a digusting slob. That's on him and he's the only one who can help himself.

Your wife and you have to stop enabling his lifestyle and get him evicted from your home. He can pay his $600 a month and be a boarder in someone else's home. Though I don't think his filthy and disgusting habits will be tolerated for very long.

Please, go to the courthouse and have him served with legal eviction papers.
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Hi - you stated that you moved your FIL into your house because "it’s the only parent your precious wife has left so you agreed." If she's so precious to you, then what kind of memories are you giving her to remember how nasty you are to her father?

You can't stand him - he gets on your nerves and you find him annoying. But I bet he's useful to you on the day he pays you the monthly $600.

To be honest, the way you're speaking about him says more about you than about him. Just kindly discuss plans with your wife to help him with next steps - do it constructively so it's productive - make it positive...maybe he needs some support in this, and your wife should be proactive and look into other options with him on places to live. It's clear that he shouldn't be living in your house. It's long enough.

And with all the times you're calling him a fat slob, obviously he's having a hard time getting started with exercising - if you belong to a gym or have exercise equipment at home, would it hurt to encourage him and join him?

I wonder how he feels about having a son-in-law like you. It must be disappointing.
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Rlp820 Sep 13, 2024
Before you think of him as an awful person, you got to walk a mile in his shoes. I have with my own father, and the situation is no joke. You have to remember he's human too. And the sanctity of his home and the Peace of his family is being threatened every day. That's a very difficult situation to live with and I sympathize with him 100%. The father-in-law has to go!
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Your child's safety comes first. You can't have a newborn in a dirty and unsanitary home.

All that cursing, yelling and screaming isn't going to solve the situation. That is just as bad as spinning your tires in the mud and getting deeper and deeper.

I would seek counseling for myself. Since you are so pi$$ed, I wouldn't even tell my spouse. She has enough with the pregnancy and her ill dad. The counseling is to help you to calm down so that you can think more rationally.

Sounds like you need a couple days away from that situation just to get some breathing room. If it gets so bad, get yourself a hotel room and a hotel with a pool.
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TC, sounds like you need a reset, and FAST before you really are alone like you say you want to be.
All three of you may very well be right.
You may have rules for FIL that to you are completely reasonable and appropriate.
Your wife may be correct that your rules are not all reasonable and appropriate.
Neither of those things matter one whit if your FIL is not going to follow rules no matter how reasonable and appropriate they are.

Truth: this situation is not working and in a family (which consists of you, your wife and your child), if things are not working for everyone, they need to be reevaluated and changed. You may need help with this or you and your wife may be able to agree to push the reset button all by yourselves.
There may or may not be a compromise here but if you continue this way, your wife’s rage and lack of respect is going to grow to match your own - but will be directed toward YOU.
Good luck getting her to consider your side after that.
Tell her you love her. Apologize for letting your anger get the best of you. Tell her you cannot continue living like this. Ask her if she would be willing to look at options for restoring your family.
Ask her to read this thread so she can get some other perspectives.
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MiaMoor Sep 15, 2024
I agree.
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