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Firstly - hindsight is 20/20 - you know what happened to her but what would have happened if you had her home? YOU JUST DON'T KNOW

Secondly - you can't undo events that have happened - you can take steps to make sure they don't happen again but you can't change what has already happened - you can do 'what ifs' forever like 'what if mom hadn't gone in the NH?', 'what if mom never met dad?'... you can even go back to 'what if Eve died in childbirth having her first child?' but asking these questions are pointless in the outcome of what is actually happening today

Thirdly - by doing all these unproductive look backs, I believe you are not living up to what your mom would want for you now & in the future - you will always miss her but you must get on with your own life & make a new reality that doesn't have her at the centre - from what you said you have spent the best part of 25 years [= 1/4 of a century] taking care of her in her various stages of life but she is gone now & while you won't forget her ever now she is not who your life pivots around anymore so for your own sake you must either move on or seek professional help to do so

Lastly - you are either at or approaching the age you mom was when she moved in with you - what are your plans for the rest of your life? - are you just going to sit there or are you going to do something positive - maybe start with going on a short trip to a place your mom always wanted to go but didn't get there in the end & wear something of hers like her wedding ring or a favourite watch so whether you get to the top of the Eiffel Tower or the bottom of the Grand Canyon, you can touch it & say to yourself 'I'm thinking of you mom & I know you would love it as much as I do' - by doing this your both honour her & get yourself moving forward to make some great memories for when you can no longer do so

Good luck as you move forward in your life while occationally glimpsing backwards in memory but looking forward in your next stage of life
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ImageIMP Feb 2019
Moecam, I kind of feel a little reactive at your post? You are ever so practical, which of course is often necessary, but I'm just not "built" to be so pragmatic and frankly quick to "get over it"? Contrary to the general gist of your post, for the vast majority of the time we lived together - yes, over 20 years - I didn't take care of her, but rather we took care of each other... We were best friends, companions, roommates, in reality "life partners", and I couldn't have hoped for better in any of those roles. She was a really bright, funny, competent person until the very end of her life (at 88 I had to take her to the local college 2x a week because she took 2 semesters of Russian - starting with 2nd semester - and got "A's". She was bored, had always wanted to learn, and fiercely believed in "use your noggin or lose it!" Yes my life mosty revolved around her, but I needed her and appreciated her and vice versa! It wasn't a sacrifice - it was a full and healthy relationship based on love, "like", respect and yes, convenience.

I AM taking steps to reconstruct my life without her. It's not an instant, or even steady, process? There are ups and downs - challenges that come up without warning, usually when I've let my guard down enough to "feel". I gained about 40 pounds in the 2 1/2 years Mom (we?) went through Hell... In the last year, on my own, and healthily, I've lost 50... I have COPD/Emphysema, but (contrary to my pulmonologist's wishes - no, I'm not dragging oxygen tubing around the house!) I do really well most of the time... In fact, I joined a gym, and for several months (excepting just recently when I got a "bug" going around, which affects my breathing) I've actually be going for 2x/week "weight workouts" with a trainer ("dead" lifts of 85 pounds, pushups, "planking", deep squats with weights - despite my bad knees for which I've resisted replacements for years. I've been "off" for the last 2 months, but plan to work back up to that level... I am STUBBORN (as was Mom). I don't like to be told I can't do something before I try! I've joined a bowling league, a "Meetup" ladies' group, I've kept up with a dog club I've belonged to for years, I play pinnocle every month with 11 friends... So, you see, I DO have plans for my life, I'm not just "sitting here" and I think I am being pretty positive?! Do I look backwards? You bet! There are both good and, admittedly a lot of bad, things to look back at. I wouldn't trade the good memories - and don't want to, am not capable of, occasional only glimpses of the most meaningful parts of my life. Yes, I'll be 70 this year - Mom was 97 when she died - and I don't expect I'll make it to that point.

And, finally - I've worn a Black Hills Gold ring on my right ring finger that Dad gave me when I was 19. Recently, I took the diamond from Mom's engagement ring, picked out a blank setting (rose gold because that was Mom's favorite), and now have a ring for her on my left hand...

Finally, I saw a counselor once a week for over a year... We mutually agreed that the grieving process is so individual in every way, that I AM processing the death of Mom - but the trauma of losing her wasn't simply the pain of the loss, but the even greater pain and stress of the events that led up to that loss. I will make it through - I AM making it through - but I'm never going to forget either the good or the bad... Time has actually softened some of the issues already...
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I know this sounds strange.....but my Mom wasn't put in her nursing home by choice. She fell three times in one morning, was taken to the hospital, then placed in the NH she's in now. She then fell again in the skilled nursing side of the home....and they decided that at that point, she couldn't return home anymore. She was too hurt from her first three falls and this latest fall only sealed the deal for her physically by knocking out her confidence at that point. So I didn't get to choose her nursing home....but I did get to choose her rehab facility which doubles as a nursing home. I don't regret it because the staff have been amazing in taking really good care of her. They even received an award for the percentage of falls in their facility (or lack thereof) back in 2017. I hope my story helps you to find some solace in knowing this; you did the best you could with the information you had in front of you. And that's all anyone can really do as both a caregiver, a daughter and your mother's advocate. God bless you for airing your grievances here~you'll find what you're looking for if you keep moving forward and remembering that you were able to spend a great amount of time with someone you loved all the way up to their final days.
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NeedHelpWithMom Feb 2019
mmcmahon,

Glad you had a good facility. Nursing homes in my area are awful.
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I really feel your pain. You were a faithful companion on your mother's end of life journey. No one could have done better.
I am going through similar circumstances. My mother lived alone in her condo and then 10 years ago had a horrific fall...breaking hip, pelvis and sternum. So long in rehab but never the same when she got home with numerous smaller falls involving hairline fractures and then another horrible one two years ago, needing total shoulder replacement at age 91. Since then, two life threatening UTIs with sepsis, needing more hospitalization and rehab.
Seeing her in such pain, with accompanying depression, delusions, paranoia, memory loss and rages, was something I would not wish on my worst enemy. The suffering for her, and for me, was immense.
Like you, I advocated and fought for the best treatment possible. In fact and I know you will find this true...I was so busy dealing with all of the issues and personnel that there was very little quality time to just enjoy being with my mother.
I tried so hard and long, to keep her in her comfy home, with help. But I could see that it was unsustainable, financially. It was getting close to $15,000 a month for her care 24/7. She would need two people to get her up from bed or chair and on the toilet and keep her clean.
I had transformed my dining room on first floor, into a bedroom with lift chair for her. We remodeled our nearby bath to make it handicapped accessible. We thought we could care for her here with an aid. All for nothing because I simply was not strong enough to lift her or break a fall if it happened and we could not afford a 24/7 aide.
You acted out of a need for your mother's safety. You would never have been able to care for your mother, safely at home. And you would have been at risk too, for injury, in trying to do this.
My mother just went into an assisted living facility near here. It was a choice of this or a long term care facility. There were many meetings with the nurse practitioner there who assessed her three time and they told me they were equipped to deal with her medical and psychological issues .
I have been second guessing myself since she went in, three days ago.
Your hurting heart attests to the love you had for your mother. I feel that pain too, having to make the decision to have my mother leave her home and go into assisted living.
You did the very best you could under very trying circumstances and I sure understand those.
Your mother understood how lucky she was, to have you as a devoted companion in her last part of her life. I really hope that time softens your grief and that you will not be hard on yourself. Guilt can be misplaced and also crippling. Ask yourself if realistically, if there were any better alternatives to what you had to do. I am sure there were none and your acted out of love for her. Get counseling to work through this...it will help.
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ImageIMP Feb 2019
Enshope, I truly hope your Mom does well in AS and the rest of her life is as comfortable as possible... Your story mirrors so much of mine it's uncanny, except that (because of an abusive and incompetent "skilled nursing/rehab" center) my Mom never made it home after her original fall and broken hip & wrist... (That was the goal and hope but that was impossible by then). I advise you to just be vigilant and pay close attention to the details of your Mom's facility... Finding a good nursing home was - in my experience locally - nearly impossible... I think the NH where she ended up, an "Intermediate Nursing Facility" is probably one of the better places, but the problem there is that the same owners had another facility, a "memory care unit", on the same property... When a resident in the memory unit became medically needy, they were sent over to the nursing facility. If their medical issue(s) didn't clear up, though, they were kept there and didn't return to the memory unit... I feel so terribly sad for people whose loved ones have dementia issues - it seems like losing someone twice - but at the same time, the issues caused by the "mixing" of medically needy residents with dementia patients was almost catastrophic... I didn't realize this at first, didn't realize the impact, alarm, the noises and behavior would have on my Mom, until the night she became totally out of control and panic-stricken... I was called because she was trying desperately to "escape" in her wheelchair - trying to get out various doors, fighting off anyone nearby, refusing to take her meds... On the phone with me, she begged me to call "911" to help her, told me if I didn't get there soon I'd never see her again... When I got there, she refused to take her meds, and finally - crying, which I'd almost never seen my Mom do - begged me not to let them give her the "zombie" pills... She was panic-stricken and thought she was fighting for her life because she thought the dementia patients' behavior was purposely caused by meds in the facility... Again, I am so sad and sorry for people dealing with dementia and the resultant behaviors in their loved ones, but it just wasn't fair to co-mingle everyone that way?
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I still feel that way about my mom more than my dad. Mom went to the nursing home due to her broken leg and arm. She kept begging my dad, and me that she wanted to home after she healed. She felt lonely, and depressed. I tried to visit her everyday, but due to my cerebral palsy, I couldn’t drive. Six months later, Mom died with a lot of complications. I was shock because about six weeks before she died, she was fine on her birthday. I kept my promise to Dad that he wanted to die at home, and he almost did, but he ended up going to the hospice. A day later, he died.

Like you… I really couldn't handle Mom alone with Dad because of my disability but my heart just won't quit hurting either.
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drpoundsign Feb 2019
...and, families, ANY Family, has conflicts. My Mother, when alive, called me her "Einstein." Dad thought I was pretty clueless. In Late middle age, I must admit-dad was closer to being Right-lol. While he could be short with people, his attitude was, "if you can't have fun when you're young, when CAN you have fun?? When you're Older, you have obligations." Whereas Mom would overprotect me, but also push me in "Genius" directions that I couldn't handle. When my Mother died, I hadn't passed the test to get into Residency yet. Her decline was certainly one reason for this, but there were issues as well. Sure, Father loved Mother and me, but, at the back of their minds, they want to be able to have a new squeeze and pursue retirement activities after the period of mourning. He couldn't for over a year, because I hadn't made it yet. He didn't remarry, and, at the time I was grateful for that (certain female relatives didn't like "wicked stepmothers") but, of course, that meant he would never have a caretaker other than myself.
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The only afterthought that I have is that I could have probably sued the NH my late mother was in. Here's why - They held a family meeting with my mother present. They said to her "Ma'am, you're too well to stay here." Ummm wrong answer!
DEAD WRONG because less than 48 hours later she suffered a stroke there and died days later.
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NeedHelpWithMom Feb 2019
Llama,

My gosh, so sad. You know what my grandfather used to say? A lot of truth to his comment, he always said that doctors bury their mistakes.

Certainly does apply in your mom’s case.
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Yes – My mother took a turn for the worse in late August and I ended up with her in the ER. It was determined that there would be no long-term recovery and she opted for comfort care. Unfortunately at the time my teenage son was recovering from a broken leg and about to start school for the year. My husband worked nights driving truck. I am an only child and lived in another state working full-time. We kept her in the hospital for about a week until a bed in one of the facilities she chose opened up. She lived about 10 days after the move. Had I know she had so little time I would had not placed her. I know I would not be able to care for her in her home but had I moved her to my house and brought her sister with me I think we could have given her a more peaceful last few days.
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I would suggest that you seek out a Grief Share program in your area. They have them all over the country. On their website you can just add your zip code and it will pull up a list of locations near you. Their structure is they have participants who have experience grief from the loss of a loved one meet together once a week for 13 weeks and share their experiences, their pain, and their grief. They have a weekly video that deals with complications most experience through their journey of adjusting to losing a loved one. Questions can be answered and experiences shared in a way that is very therapeutic. I participate in one of the programs and find it helpful.
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I am so sorry you are hurting. Please remember that she is out of pain now and wouldn't want you beating yourself up over the "could have, would have, should haves". You did the best you that knew how give all the circumstances. Please, if you can, consider getting counseling of some sort. It took me over 6 months to finally admit I needed therapy after my dad died and then saw a counselor once a week and then once a month for about 3 months and was just happy that I could express all my sadness/guilt/ and so on to someone. {{HUGS}}
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ImagineIMP -  I'm so sorry you are hurting so much.  I, too, think of my dad every single day and wonder if we could've kept him home.  I know in my heart of hearts that we couldn't.  There was no way my mother (84) could have given him the care he needed, especially at the end.  He became so violent at home.  It was only a matter of time before he hurt my mother.   My dad died after 5 months in a NH from dementia at 92.   He couldn't feed himself, walk or talk.  The end was horrible.   I just keep telling myself that we cared for him the best we could and at the end we just could not do it.   I tell myself... it was just 5 more months... but there was no possible way my mother could do it.   Me and my sisters work FT.  We all did the best we could.    The facility he was in took great care of him.  He was clean, fed and safe.  I will always regret we couldn't keep him in his home of 60+ years and I keep hearing him tell me that he wanted to die at home.   I feel the guilt and I pray to him everyday and hope he knows we did the best we could.  He died in September and I miss him so much.  You're not alone! Hugs and prayers.
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Lymie61 Feb 2019
Linda I would submit that he did die at home. Maybe not his body but his mind did and that's really the important thing right? My guess is he was barley aware of his surroundings if at all by the time he went to the NH so his last memories were of happiness and peace at home, his body just lived a little longer and was well cared for while it did, his spirit stayed right there in his home of 60+ years with his wife and family until his body was ready to let go and now it's with you everywhere. Sounds to me like you did fulfill his wishes, including the one about taking care of your mom and I'm sure he is smiling down on you every day as you are thinking of him and doing everything he can to will the guilt and second guessing out of you.
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You and your mom went through so much. And it is so unfair that her care was so bad at times. I, too, tend to revisit my many decisions regarding mom and dad. So many difficult ones. The fact is that while all was happening, you were having to react to each problem. Advocate, advocate, advocate. These things would occur "rapid fire" and at each turn, you did the very best you could. I was caregiver for mom and dad; Dad passed in 2017 and mom in 2018. It seemed as soon as I came up with a solution to one problem, two more took its place. There were times I definitely felt overwhelmed, exhausted, and sleep-deprived. The reality is that finally, now, you and I have the time and energy to actually process all of these things....a luxury we didn't have before. And if you're anything like me, you try to learn from your experiences. But please don't fall into the trap of second-guessing your actions. Like me, you had to do all of this on your own. If you had other family to share in the tasks, you would also have other family to share in the burden of your decisions and loss and grief. You and I know that it is a tremendous undertaking for one person. Your mom recognized the value of your care and love. She knows as my parents know, that everything you did was out of care and love. I won't tell you not to think of the bad things that occurred, but I will tell you over and over again, that you did the best you could at that time and I will suggest to you that each time you process the difficult memories, please follow it with revisiting a fond memory. My mother once said about relationships that if having an argument, make sure you get the last word, .....but make sure that word is full of love. As I am going through what you are, thank you for sharing your question.
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ImageIMP Feb 2019
Lynina, thank you so much for your meaningful and caring response. You really touched many chords with me, and expressed so much of the way I feel... Yes, it just seemed there were always multiple issues to handle, and no end... I was also grief-stricken at the mental and physical pain she had to suffer for 2 1/2 years before she passed. In the end - I'm sorry, this is pretty graphic I hope not too hard on people - when a CNA let her fall while transferring her in the shower and she broke both bones below her left knee, they at first thought she'd merely sprained her leg... By the end of the day, though, with the swelling and bruising and discomfort, she was transported to ER, which x-rayed, and simply splinted her leg and sent her back to the NH. The NH was in no way equipped for the level of care she needed at that point. She became progressively worse for 3 days, until finally she was screaming in pain and went back to the hospital, where they let her scream for another3 days ("we can't give her any more meds for the pain because it could kill her...") Seriously?! By this time, they thought she'd probably had a minor heart attack, very probably had a clot in her lung, her kidneys were failing, etc. - and she had zero chance by this time for any future quality of life. Finally, the hospitalist on staff - another angel! - asked what I wanted and I said for her to have peace and be out of pain! I told him I would - and had - fight tooth, claw, and whatever else I could muster for her if there was any potential for a meaningful life, but at this point there was nothing to fight for except her right to peace... (Boy, was THAT a hard pill to swallow!) and he mercifully suggested hospice be called (he estimated she would go in 12-24 hrs). She stayed in a different room in the hospital, all support and monitoring except IV pain meds was removed, and the waiting began... She lasted 3 more days, while I sat in the room by myself and watched and waited... Early in the morning of the 3rd day, I told her (I'd been talking to her all along, but...) that I knew she worried about me, but if she wanted to let go I would be OK... She could see my Dad (who died in 1970 at 55 yrs old, when I was 19), her sister and brothers, her best friends - almost everyone she cared about had already passed. Mom was never a physically demonstrative person (old country German Mom... tempered by Irish Dad - well, did I say something about temper?) and I am huggy and frankly emotional. So, periodically, we had a routine where I'd give her a look (she KNEW that look!) and say "OK, it's time - too bad, so sad, just suffer through it - but I need a hug!" She'd make a big show of discomfort (I know eventually she actually liked it, but had to play it out!) and I'd hug her, tell her to put her arms around me and squeeze, and then I'd squish the heck out of her and kiss her cheek! That morning, I leaned over and said "Mom, too bad because you can't do anything about it, but I'm going to kiss your cheek! I leaned down, and kissed her on the cheek, then said "OK, now it's your turn!" and I put my cheek down to her mouth... She sort of stirred, then made a "kissy" movement with her mouth... I'm afraid I lost it then! She died about 2 hours later...
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My dear husband died June 29, 2018, in a local hospital. He had been in a nursing home for about two weeks prior to being rushed to the ER . He had been found unresponsive early on the morning of June 27th. I had been able to keep him at home and was his sole caregiver for close to 2-1/2 yrs. since he was diagnosed with late onset Alzheimer's with vascular disease. I had promised him that I would not put him in a facility as long as I could give him the 24/7 care he eventually needed. He kept falling and was in the hospital for 6 days that May, when he was also diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease. He took a very hard fall on April 14th, hitting his head on the concrete floor of our garage, and even though he walked with a walker, he had many prior falls. Finally in June, I felt I could no longer care for him at home, he kept trying to climb over the rails of his hospital bed, so I had to stay in the area of his bed to keep an eye on him. By the time all this took place, my health was going downhill and our primary dr. advised me to find help. It was after his last bad fall that I finally had to admit that I had to place him in a nursing home on hospice. It broke my heart to have to do so, but I knew that I could no longer care for him by myself at home. I knew that he would get the care he needed in the NH and I visited him everyday. He would beg me to bring him home, and I would tell him that the dr. said he needed to get stronger first and then we would see about it. That seemed to give him some comfort. BUT had I known that he would not have lived any longer than he did, I would have brought him back home with hospice to help. Even though I knew what I had done, had to be done to save my health and for him to get better care. I still grieve at times, thinking that I wish that I had kept him at home. Also wondering if he always felt that I had stopped loving him since I put him in the NH. We had been married for 57 yrs. and now that he is gone, I miss him everyday of my life and yes, sometimes I still hurt because I had placed him in the NH and I think what makes it more difficult is that he still had a good bit of memory left and he knew me. I stayed by his bedside at the hospital those last three days of his life as he slowly slipped away from this life into his eternal home with God. He went peacefully, having never come out of the unresponsive state. Whenever I have those feelings of guilt, I remember just how ill he had been and the constant care that he needed and now he has a perfect body again. I will join him one day and that gives me much comfort. My wonderful church family gives me so much comfort and most seem to know just when I need a little extra caring love. Our two grown children live out of town so I don't get to be with them very often, so my church family means the world to me. I pray that you can finally find the comfort you are seeking and can stop hurting and feeling the guilt of having placed your Mom in the NH. My husband also had type 2 diabetes and was on insulin, had three heart attacks in the past and they found shortly before he died that his cancer had returned for the fourth time after 8 yrs. of being in remission, he also had bladder incontinence. My prayers go out for you to find peace and that the hurt will slowly get better as mine is finally doing.
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ImageIMP Feb 2019
I'm so sorry for what you've had to endure and handle. It is so unfair, both to people needing help and their caretakers, to have to go through so much pain... I hope everyone can find some peace and resources to help, as you have with your church family...
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I have the same kind of situation where I know for sure on a
practical level I made the right choices. It really helps to visualize yourself zoomed out and looking down at the situation and being on the outside and taking out emotions, I
realize I did make the best decisions and I need to power through a super tough situation. This pain and heartbreak is
very common and I can do it too and there is this support system if not right here, this forum.
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Dear one, you are mourning the loss of your mum....and you did your best with what you were working with, and by yourself! (me, too!)

It's normal to feel what you feel....second-guessing yourself, rehashing the story. Yet let me reassure you, YOU DID YOUR BEST.

And it's ok....it's over for her now, she's out of pain and suffering....it's over...

I didn't really start feeling a bit better until 2 years later, and still I can pretty much cry just talking about it. Losing my mum was primal, and like you, we were very close, esp when I moved back home to care for my parents. Now I'm going through it with my dad...

It's time to nurture yourself like you did your mum.
Small steps. Maybe even consider a grief support group if you feel drawn or talk to a good friend. Have someone listen helped me...

You're a good person. It's time to honor yourself...sending you love and healing for the next chapter of your life....
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My heart and soul go out to you. There are many things in your story that are exactly like where I am at this moment. I am on my own with Mom. Yesterday, Mom, a care giver, and I were supposed to be at Disney for a week. But, alas, postponed since she hurt both knees with an unfortunate situation in the walk in tub that she usually beams about. (a story for another topic;(
Since I am her sole caregiver at home, that means I spend all day at the hospital and at the rehab center. I wouldn't have it any other way since the 2 of us have the same connection you describe with your Mom. Just as our parents did the best with us, raising us, loving us, etc. we all do our best with them at the end of their life. Somewhere along the way come forgiving ourselves and having the BEST memories from our years together. I think if you scroll back over questions here, you will find TONS of examples where the mother/daughter relationship was far from loving for a VERY long time. Maybe go to a therapist for a short while and talk through what you did RIGHT with Mom for SO long. Writing in a journal might accomplish the same thing.... (and much less expensive....$5 for a journal;) Maybe write a book to only read to yourself when the grief gets overwhelming....
Put down her funny lines, her favorite meals, places you went together over and over since they were so much fun, etc.
Just as when she was alive, be kind to yourself now that she is gone. Congratulate yourself on all the RIGHT things that were done. Given your story, there are thousands more of those....
I am not sure what makes humans so different when it comes to guilt after the fact. All I do know is your strength when she was alive is the strength you need to grab onto now that she is gone.
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JesusLove1976 Feb 2019
And for those like me who cannot write with pen, either type a journal in some device, or have a SD card just for journaling alone be it typed, be it voice recorder, or video journal. I would suggest at least a 32 gb card to start with for plenty of journal space. A past dominant shoulder injury is the reason behind my limited pen writing. Dominant shoulder meaning the shoulder leading to my dominant hand.
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Going through this now, she lived alone. I hate this and want to bring her home. My husband and mom can’t stand each other but I can’t stand this will be her life.
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JesusLove1976 Feb 2019
So sorry for you! All you can do is pray, since your husband comes first.
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You, and others posting here, did the best you could. Like you, I often think that if I could have done something different, Mom could have stayed with me and all would have been OK. But, that’s just wishful thinking. I am sorry that the CNA was not able to keep your mom from slipping in transport, as it seems that your Mom was at a point where the nursing home my mom was in would have required two CNAs for transport to avoid this very thing. Nevertheless, when you consider all the things that the nursing home DID do right for your mom, especially when you were not there, could you have realistically done all of that on your own? I took care of Mom in some form or other for twenty years, after the passing of Dad. For most of those 20 years, I was able to help her on my own. It was only the last three years that I could not. Like you, I am single, and there are less years ahead of me than behind. There will be no one to help me, when I am too frail to take care of myself. I thank God that there are some very good nursing homes and pray the bad ones go out of business. It is easy for us to feel guilty about putting our loved ones into a nursing home, but take a moment and think about all the good years that your mom DID have in her life. You kept her safe. THAT was the kindest thing you could have done for her. You did the best you could, and that is all anyone can do.
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Let this Angle Here, dear, Put your own at Home to Rest...You did your God Loving Best. You were always There with Care for your Mom, God knows this and being a Caregiver for Years, Dear, You were Mom's Guardian angel
Relax, You did everything Possible and Being Beside Her, No Need to Hurt. You can Rest Assure if it was Not for You, Mom would never had Anyone, hun.
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ImageImp,
My mom is still alive and I have guilt. I tried taking care of her in my home but she was up all hours, trying to get in to my husband while he was trying to sleep because she thought he raped and killed her imaginary daughter, etc., etc. I had to put her in a group home, which is 15 minutes from where I live. She wanted me to take her home (her home when she was a child or sometimes, her home when she was married to my dad). They say "redirect".....well, mom is like a child. You can offer her something sweet to eat during those times but after she finishes eating she's back to I want to go home and crying because I won't take her there. Sorry TMI. I do understand your guilt, but you did the best you could, which is what I am trying to do. I see mom every day as well. Prayers for peace and comfort to you.
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JesusLove1976 Feb 2019
Not TMI to me! So very sorry, this rape thing is no joke! You did the right thing,
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Your mom was so blessed to have you. You have been heroic during all her suffering. Your grief is of course justified.

Take your time as you sort through her things. May many discoveries bring you joy.

I agree that being part of a bereavement group may be quite helpful. Visiting with a counselor for a while may be helpful as well.

You have done an incredible job as a caregiver, and I wish you well as you heal and create a new life for yourself.
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I'm a physician myself (Internal Medicine.) My Late Father was widowed 30+ years ago when my Mom died after fighting a Very Bad Cancer. I'm an only Son. I was practicing Down South for a Decade, when my Dad, during a Spring visit to him said, "Son, could you please retire and take care of me here? I think I'm losing my Mind." So-what could I DO? I gave notice at work, and drove back in late 2013 (the Worst Winter EVER up here!) and took care of him. He was a renowned Scientist and WW2 Veteran. He was also a master points Bridge player. He knew he was starting to make mistakes. After I had him home, he had a BAD case of the Shingles (that we both thought would do him in) along with Post Herpetic Neuralgia (insane itching.) I shlepped him to his own Primary Care MD (who is HIS age!) and he recommended PT, so I took him there. He then had digestive problems, and I got him to eat. I took him overseas to a wedding in Late 2014, and to see my Uncle, who was in the hospital after a wreck (which almost killed him because of his advanced COPD. He's finally quit smoking.) We were going to go on a bucket list Danube Cruise, but we both agreed he was too weak to walk. I had insured the trip to the hilt, and cancelled it. We went to Boston the next Spring (I had an educational conference) but he had kept calling me on my cell. He was Macho "I can handle it!" etc. He agreed to go to Assisted Living for my sake-he could see I wasn't happy. I, Too, am in my Late Fifties and unmarried. I guess I was always cynical about the whole Institution. They finally had a bed for him in November of 2015. It was in Memory Care, as he was almost Ninety and Frail. I visited him every day. He had a hospitalization, and then I agreed to Hospice (you NEED that here to get a bed with rails that they don't tumble out of.) I visited him every day, and his lady friend visited fairly often. They had movies at night, and memory activities. He often had his head down and said he felt "miserable." Hospice called me in mid-December, to say he was "declining a bit" and had asked to be put to bed in the daytime. I rushed over. He was essentially very obtunded/comatose for the last week, with cold extremities. He passed away with me at his side. His kidneys weren't the greatest, and I think his Heart must have failed. No pity party for us...he made it to an advanced age. But, I feel VERY Guilty, and am second-guessing myself three years later. I could have/should have settled down. If I had married the Divorcee Internist with the daughter during my residency, I would have had her and at least one grown child, (plus, maybe some of my Own) to help out. I could then easily have managed him in our Home. Dad would have been happier then. If I had cancelled Hospice, and had him taken to the Hospital across the street, maybe they could have fixed him up, and he could have survived until the Springtime. I could even have hired a full time caretaker. I had an Inner City NO account watch him while I worked part-time (I'm SORRY, but it's True!) who no-showed a few times. Once, when I went to work without her coming, I found him on the floor in the Hall (he thought he was in bed) and called the medics. They got him up and walking around-he thankfully was OK. He was verbal until the week before he Died, and even typed an Assisted Living Packing List, told me how he met my Mom, etc. one year before passing on. One thing he did NOT do much of as a Senior was physical exercise. That preserves the Brain and Body. I should TALK-I have a Health Club membership and rarely go. Spirnolactone is Good for the Mind, too. A Cardiologist did an ECHO a year before his Death, and he had 60% Ejction Fraction. But, after a fall, the hospital did one the next Spring, and it was only about 25%. That's Poor Cardiac Function.
It's All SO HARD!
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kcs1234 Feb 2019
We all do the best we can for our loved ones. If we are caring individuals, we all have guilt. I pray for peace for you.
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As many have said guilt is always knocking at the door. I reflect on the choices us children have made. Sometimes, when I think of the other choices we could have made; she and/or we could have been in a better situation, or possibly in a worse situation. My mother has dementia and I have dealt with those same issues you have (the clothes was very frustrating), but the most guilt producing is not being there to reassure her in her confusion or being present for her moments of lucidity.
I realize though that when I was caring for her, I was not always meeting those needs anyway, because I was so task oriented to have some sort of normalcy and order. That thought can also bring guilt.
We do our best to care for the one who sacrificed (as we REMEMBER) to care for us. As a mom, I realize that perhaps I did not sacrifice as much as my children think I did. And if I did, I do not want them to feel indebted to me for that. I just want to do all I can to bring love, peace and joy to their lives, just as I wish to do for my mother.
Unfortunately we only have a certain physical capacity. So, take heart, from what I have gathered you and your mother had a great love for each other. The greatest thing is love. And so we cry some for loving, and laugh some for living.
May God bless you on grief journey, that you may be able to bring to mind happy memories, when those thoughts of guilt and sorrow break into your stream of consciousness.
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I know none of have the answers you need to help you get over the variety of feelings you have. None of us can travel back in time and stop what has happened or will happen to our LO. As humans, all we have is hindsight and What If's; that's normal. The thing is; at least in my mind; we try to do the same for them as they did for us for SO many years growing up and I think that's where the guilt comes into play. I've been told to look at it as role reversal but I think that's wrong. That's trying to compare apples to watermelons. Taking care of kids is So much easier. You raise your voice, they stop but our LO don't understand that anymore. You need time away from the kids, you call a babysitter but you just can't do that with your parents. The kids will listen to the babysitter but your parents will actually throw things and fight them from start to finish. This is going to sound really Really strange but I'm starting to care for Mom (last5 years w/Dem - on & off Bad days) like a pet. Reward her good calm behavior with her fav foods, a drive to get something to eat, her fav is McD's and listening to the oldies in the car. On her bad days when she starts to argue, I just say "That's it, I'm going for a drive" and step outside. Within 2 min she calms down and I'm back inside. It's starting to work. As soon as I grab my jacket, she says "I'm sorry, I'll stop arguing" and she feels better. I have No idea if I'm going to have to look into a NH, God help me if that's the case since she only get SS and doesn't qualify for AL, but I've gone way way past what I thought I could even dream of dealing with. When that day comes, I think Mom won't remember one day to the next, so that will make it just a little bit easier. There will always be a bit of guilt because We had to give someone else; who isn't family; the responsibility of caring for our LO they same way they took care of us. I pray that I can have the strength You had when it gets that tough. I also pray that I'll still be Me when it's all said and done like You are now. God Bless.
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ImageIMP Feb 2019
Thanks Sonny... I understand exactly what you're saying about trying to adapt and use creative techniques to "encourage" cooperation! Before Mom was hurt, and ended up needing facility care, she lived with me for about 20 years. We were best friends, roommates, actually "life partners"? As the years went on, our relationship did change because she needed more and more physical help, and also got a little "soft" in the noggin from time to time. (She had macular degeneration, and eventually was centrally blind, and she also had mobility issues from a previous back surgery and used a rollator.) She was fiercely independent and it did get interesting sometimes? (How about reading her bills out loud every month, so she could retain control because I had to do her bills/banking and she couldn't see?) One thing I found interesting - and definitely also sad - was the many people who blithely said "Well, you should just put your Mom in a home where they can take care of her? You can't ever really do things for yourself, and It isn't fair to you for her to take up your whole life!" I couldn't understand how anyone would think my Mom was unfairly cramping my life? We'd both taken care of each other in so many differerent ways over the years (she was 95 by this time!) I'd just look at them -friends? - and ask whether they'd feel that way if she was a spouse who needed help when older? Sure there were things I couldn't do - travel, for one thing, was tough, although I have one very good friend who loved her too and would help out. I have no siblings (my only brother was killed in a motorcycle accident about 10 years ago), and no kids... My only "blood relatives" actually are one cousin in Massachusetts and one in Montana, and a nephew (my brother's only child), his wife, and their two babies in Texas... Not a big family! But I would REALLY feel guilty if I'd just discarded her as an impediment to my life? Sheesh!
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I almost never can get past the titles on the email page but your question caught my eye. Yes, yes, yes, I have many "afterthoughts" and "regrets". I don't think I will ever be the same. A little over a year is not long, to say the least. I don't know if this site allows phone numbers to be posted but I'll try and if you ever want to talk, give me a try. To say you've been through a lot is a gross understatement. If I don't answer, PLEASE leave a message and I will return your call.
Bob
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ImageIMP Feb 2019
Thank you Bob... I don't know either whether this forum will allow personal info to be posted? It seems there used to be a "reply privately" choice, but I don't see it now?
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Aw Image, your story sadly is not unique. Unique and devastatingly painful for you but not unique. Ah that it were.

I have many regrets about how my mom's care was handled or mishandled by many. As my siblings chose to let me take the brunt of the care I couldn't be everywhere at once, didn't have eyes in the back of my head, wasn't strong enough to lift mom even though she was a slight little thing. So I didn't really decide, circumstances decided it, but yet I still think maybe I could have done this, should have done that. Just maybe, I could have moved in with her and yet she wouldn't have wanted that. She was so proud and hung on to her independence with all her might. She never let on she was forgetting things and not eating properly, not taking her medications properly. The usual sad, sad story.

Yes, I have many regrets...............always will, even though I know I did the best I could, I still think I could have done better. So yes, I hear you.
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ImageIMP Feb 2019
Hugs to you... I'm sorry my story isn't unique...
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Thanks all... Sorry if I get really revved up again and again? I'm still trying to clean out Mom's bedroom, and end up running into things that just stop me in my tracks... Growing up, my Mom was emphatic about privacy, i.e., no one goes in your purse, your dresser drawers, etc. without permission, etc. So it's taking me forever to clean out her dressers and figure out what to do with her things... It's just so hard because I feel like I'm intruding or violating her privacy. I know rationally I'm not, but... The killers are things I'm finding that, of course, I never knew she had or had saved... The saucer wrapped in a washcloth really got to me because it was simply a piece she'd kept from the first set of dishes she and my Dad bought when they first got married; I grew up with those dishes. The black & brown plaid flannel shirt in her bottom drawer? Oh geeze! That was my Dad's favorite shirt and I can clearly see him wearing it, but he died in 1970 when I was 19 years old... I just can't throw these things away! I've decided I'm going to try to make (probably custom-make) a shadow-box type framed wall thing (that's a pretty awkward description!). (I have my Grandmother's -Mom's Mom's - wedding gown framed on the front room wall, so maybe this can go up near that!) Anyway, I might break the plate and just use a piece of it... I might cut the pocket out of the shirt and just use that.. I'll try to make a "collage" of sorts using photos, items, etc. that meant something to Mom... That will have to wait down the road, though, when I've been able to go through all the drawers...
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Sonny65 Feb 2019
Inaread of breaking the plate,why not use it as a frame for your favorite pic of her or of your family. It might not be the prettiest piece of china but it has a lot of sentimental meaning. "Serve up" a helping of happy memories on it. The shadow box is a great idea and depending on how much room you have next to the wedding dress. You might be able to keep as much of the mementos together as you can then...like a time line in smaller boxes framing the dress. If you have cousins that you were close to, those smaller shadow boxes would be nice to give to them as a remembrance of your family ties. Granted, I'm using an example of my family though - around 100 close blood relatives who always now what's going on with family. Just take it slow and easy. Enjoy all the memories they bring because That's what made your life so rich and full of Love. God Bless.
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Al any of us, the wisest, the most patient, the kindest.....all we can EVER do is our best.
After a year of attempts to care for my mom in my home, in a PERFECT setup, we came to the painful realization that everything and anything we could do would never be enough to provide the care she needed.
We placed her in a very good NH, and family was with her EVERY DAY for 5 1/2 years, most days twice a day.
She thrived.
Her caregivers loved her, and she loved them. We loved them as well. Terrible places exist, and so do very good ones. We had the extraordinary good fortune to find a very good place in our first attempt, but we always operated on the premise that if there was no good choice, the job of the caregiver to make the best possible choice of the bad ones.
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ImageIMP,

I am in the process of looking at assisted living facilities and I did look at one nursing home. Nursing homes are not rated very well in my area. Judging by the one I visited these ratings are accurate. It was horrible. I wouldn’t want to live there or send mom there if I don’t have to. I can’t even begin to describe my emotions regarding that place and what I saw.

I have to consider my mother’s medical issues (Parkinson’s disease) and finances before I decide what to do.

It’s obvious to me that you did what you had to do in your situation. Your mother would want you to be free of guilt and enjoy your life. You loved each other. I know you cherish those memories in your heart.

I strongly believe that you were an incredible advocate for your mom. If you are feeling that strongly about her care, I think you should speak to the facility about the card she received. I realize that even though you are aware that situations were not your fault, it still hurts. It hurt me when I visited my godmother in a nursing home. She had an awful experience there too. Unfortunately, her sons were unable to provide better care for her. It’s a terrible position to be in, for patients and families.

Also, maybe pass this information onto congressmen or other elected officials in your area. You have a powerful voice. It shows in your writing. Perhaps write a meaningful letter stating how you feel. I feel your passion. I wish you all the best in whatever you decide.
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ImageIMP Feb 2019
Your experience at finding a horrible nursing home is not a big surprise... I thought maybe an "adult foster home" - someone's private home with only a few residents? - might provide a more controlled, warmer environment? First, it was beyond difficult finding any available slots, especially when by then Mom was on Medicaid (and many wouldn't accept that because they couldn't afford to accept the paltry payments). Also finding homes that were set up and suitable for wheelchairs and some personal help, was daunting! I finally gave up, after the last place was so disgusting I decided the nursing home wasn't as bad as I'd felt! When I first looked at the "soon to be available" room, it was still occupied by a lady on hospice and not expected to live long, I didn't want to intrude and disrupt her, and only peeked in the room to see size, window, etc. Several days later, the owner called and said the room was now available, and could Mom move in by the first of the month? (This was only 2 or 3 days from then). In general, this place was sort of run-down and marginal, so I said I needed to bring Mom there first and see whether she felt comfortable... When we looked at the now-vacant room, I nearly fell over! The carpet was beyond filthy, there was personal "stuff" from the owner in one whole end of the room, but most distressing of all was the nauseating, pungent smell! The sole caretaker/aid (the owner never showed his face again) said the carpet would be cleaned or replaced (in 2 days?), but the smell mostly was from the overstuffed fabric recliner, because the lady who just died spent all her last days in it, and urinated/soiled it. Seriously! Why the Hxxx would anyone show a potential client a room in this condition? Poor Mom was whispering to me "Dear, Please don't leave me in this place!" - not a chance! Instead I reported them to DHS, but I doubt any action was taken because 3 new residents had been placed in the adjoining home, owned by the same guy, the previous week when another home had been shut down by authorities because of poor conditions...
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It's common to feel guilt over the choice to have your mom in a NH. As many others have said you did your best and your mom still loves you an understand.

Personally, I felt bad my mom was in a NH for rehab after a hospital stay so she could get stronger. When she got sick from sepsis, either at the NH or because of the hospital, and she went to the hospital, the NH used that as a way to discharge her (since hospital kept them abreast of how she was doing).

It is hard trying to overcome the hurt from this, but it was made a little better, since the NH she was at is not closed for good. I take that as my mom, helping out others, just like she did when she was alive.
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My brother & I too had to place my mother in a nursing home the last 14 months of her life. Why? No one could manage her needs at home. What led to this realization is my mother had not moved her bowels in almost 2 weeks and began to vomit thus my brother called EMS.
Oh yes, I felt guilt about this every single day, as did my brother.
I would go see her & she would say things like “I thought today would be the day you took me out of here”.
Oh boy- after this I cried for hours.
But we had to place her there. The rationale I hung onto was that generally my mother was safe there, as they provided 24/7 care. Hygiene was an issue as well- she was refusing to bathe.
Looking back I can’t say I would have done it any other way. I wrestle with that decision now but fleetingly and I don’t feel guilty about it (well....just a bit).

Its hard but try to look ahead. Looking back will only make you sad and unsettled. Leave those thoughts back somewhere in your psyche. No it wasn’t easy but try to move past it. It’s water under the bridge.
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NeedHelpWithMom Feb 2019
You and your brother sound very caring and your mom would not want you to live with guilt.
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